{"podcast":{"title":"The Breadwinners Podcast","slug":"the-breadwinners-podcast-7566806","podcast_index_feed_id":7566806,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/thebreadwinners","website_url":"https://thebreadwinners.co/","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/de2afeea-b8f8-11f0-afb4-dfc49638fbb1/image/30d33e19b529a190b2ab3ebdc10753e2.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Alexis Contos","episode_count":32,"summary":"They say you can't have it all — that mothers must choose between ambition and presence. But what if we're asking the wrong question? On The Breadwinners Podcast, Alexis Contos redefines what it means to be a Breadwinner in modern culture, moving it far beyond the paycheck. Through raw, honest conversations with women like Morgan Zanotti (CEO of Primal Kitchen), Nicole Trunfio (CEO of Bumpsuit), and Eve Rodsky (Author of Fair Play & Find Your Unicorn Space), we explore what it really takes to bring financial richness, emotional richness, and systemic change to our families. This isn't about balance, it's about integration. Not perfection, but wholeness. Whether you're already navigating motherhood and career, building your empire before kids arrive, or reimagining what family leadership looks like, these conversations will challenge everything you've been told about what's possible. The Breadwinners: Where ambitious mothers aren't just earning a living, they're pioneering a new era for themselves, and everyone who comes next. 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And the way women build it is completely different from what most of us have been taught. Alison Fragale is an organizational psychologist, tenured professor, former McKinsey consultant, and the author of the national bestseller Likable Badass: How Women Get the Success They Deserve. She has spent 20 years studying status, influence, and how women can build both — without compromising who they are. In this episode, Alexis Contos and Alison unpack the real science behind what makes women respected, valued, and powerful — at work, at home, and everywhere in between. What you'll learn in this episode: 🔬 Why status is a resource — just like money and health — and how to build and spend it strategically 💡 The \"caring + capable\" equation: the two signals that determine how others perceive you (and what most women get wrong) 🧠 How Alison went from feeling like a fraud at McKinsey to building a 20-year career on the one thing she was told wasn't serious: reading people 📊 Why \"I don't care what people think\" is a story we only tell ourselves when we're in pain — and what to say instead 🎭 The resting bitch face problem — and what it teaches us about non-verbal status signals 👩‍👧‍👦 Why the way you parent multiple kids is the exact same skill as influencing people at work (and why we feel proud of one but ashamed of the other) ✈️ What an American Airlines Concierge Key reveals about status symbols vs. actual status 🏗️ How to build status before you need it — and why career transitions feel so disorienting 💬 The fastest way to build status in a room full of strangers 🤝 Why women wait too long to negotiate — an…","meta_description":"The formula for women's success isn't what you've been told. 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