{"podcast":{"title":"The Artificial Intelligence Podcast","slug":"the-artificial-intelligence-podcast-3635848","podcast_index_feed_id":3635848,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/3952c6f8/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://www.tonyphoang.com","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/9517262/9517262-1714972606329-92be6bbbc19c6.jpg","author":"Dr. Tony Hoang","episode_count":92,"summary":"Ranked Top 2% of over 7 million podcasts globally (Spotify Wrapped 2025). Interviews and conversations with thought leaders in Artificial Intelligence, Machine Learning and Data Science.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-14T08:17:19.600636+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-artificial-intelligence-podcast-3635848"},"episode":{"title":"Interview #87 Vishnu Hari, CEO of ego AI","slug":"interview-87-vishnu-hari-ceo-of-ego-ai","published_at":"2026-05-25T23:46:25+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-artificial-intelligence-podcast-3635848/interview-87-vishnu-hari-ceo-of-ego-ai","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-artificial-intelligence-podcast-3635848","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tonyphoang/episodes/Interview-87-Vishnu-Hari--CEO-of-ego-AI-e3jsvng","audio_url":"https://traffic.megaphone.fm/APO7796488379.mp3","summary":"Vishnu Hari, CEO of Ego AI, breaks down why the labs with billions in compute missed the product hiding in plain sight: character AI quietly tops every consumer retention leaderboard while the serious labs write it off as a sideshow. He argues humanness itself is the hard problem - dangerous, uncontrollable, and unchained - so the giants retreat to safe coding agents and ship characters that collapse into therapy or role-play because they never actually live lives. Vishnu takes apart the memory paradox (an agent that remembers everything is unusable; one that remembers nothing is forgettable) and points to the Nemesis system in Shadow of Mordor, a feature so good Warner Bros trademarked it, as proof you can build real relationships without superintelligence. He also gets into the edges no one wants to touch: who inherits the AI you've talked to for a decade, and why the new "I'm not human" disclosure laws are pure theater.","meta_description":"Vishnu Hari, CEO of Ego AI, breaks down why the labs with billions in compute missed the product hiding in plain sight: character AI quietly tops every co…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1149,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-artificial-intelligence-podcast-3635848/episodes/interview-87-vishnu-hari-ceo-of-ego-ai/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-artificial-intelligence-podcast-3635848/interview-87-vishnu-hari-ceo-of-ego-ai.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}