{"podcast":{"title":"The Argument","slug":"the-argument-7510944","podcast_index_feed_id":7510944,"rss_url":"https://rss.buzzsprout.com/2541989.rss","website_url":"https://www.theargumentmag.com/s/the-argument-podcast","image_url":"https://storage.buzzsprout.com/bb2xld0b9syshjzu9w1dmr8yfbqo?.jpg","author":"Jerusalem Demsas & Matthew Yglesias","episode_count":37,"summary":"Has affirmative action gone too far? Should we abolish internet anonymity? Is liberal hypocrisy worth defending? Welcome to The Argument, a weekly podcast from Jerusalem Demsas and Matthew Yglesias, where two friends argue about politics, policy, and whatever else is on their minds. This is a debate show for people who want the nitty-gritty without the typical screaming matches or softball interviews. Each week, one host argues a distinctive point of view — armed with facts and research, not just pundit bluster — and then Matthew and Jerusalem hash it out. New episodes post every Thursday. You can find The Argument on Substack, YouTube, and wherever you get your podcasts. www.theargumentmag.com","last_synced_at":"2026-07-09T16:20:30.719361+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-argument-7510944"},"episode":{"title":"We're Getting Frog-Boiled by AI (with Kelsey Piper)","slug":"we-re-getting-frog-boiled-by-ai-with-kelsey-piper","published_at":"2026-01-06T07:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-argument-7510944/we-re-getting-frog-boiled-by-ai-with-kelsey-piper","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-argument-7510944","url":"https://www.theargumentmag.com/s/the-argument-podcast","audio_url":"https://www.buzzsprout.com/2541989/episodes/18459936-we-re-getting-frog-boiled-by-ai-with-kelsey-piper.mp3","summary":"A lot of Americans are uneasy about AI, and so are many of the people building it. Yet we keep scaling and deploying these systems faster than we’re building rules to govern them. Why? The Argument's Kelsey Piper has a few explanations, from foreign competition to a sense of inevitability to a conservative party terrified of regulation. Even if the incentives are clear, our collective complacency is not, especially given AI models have already attempted blackmail and in one case a...","meta_description":"A lot of Americans are uneasy about AI, and so are many of the people building it. Yet we keep scaling and deploying these systems faster than we’re build…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4092,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-argument-7510944/episodes/we-re-getting-frog-boiled-by-ai-with-kelsey-piper/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-argument-7510944/we-re-getting-frog-boiled-by-ai-with-kelsey-piper.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}