{"podcast":{"title":"The Argument","slug":"the-argument-7510944","podcast_index_feed_id":7510944,"rss_url":"https://rss.buzzsprout.com/2541989.rss","website_url":"https://www.theargumentmag.com/s/the-argument-podcast","image_url":"https://storage.buzzsprout.com/bb2xld0b9syshjzu9w1dmr8yfbqo?.jpg","author":"Jerusalem Demsas & Matthew Yglesias","episode_count":37,"summary":"Has affirmative action gone too far? Should we abolish internet anonymity? Is liberal hypocrisy worth defending? Welcome to The Argument, a weekly podcast from Jerusalem Demsas and Matthew Yglesias, where two friends argue about politics, policy, and whatever else is on their minds. This is a debate show for people who want the nitty-gritty without the typical screaming matches or softball interviews. Each week, one host argues a distinctive point of view — armed with facts and research, not just pundit bluster — and then Matthew and Jerusalem hash it out. New episodes post every Thursday. You can find The Argument on Substack, YouTube, and wherever you get your podcasts. www.theargumentmag.com","last_synced_at":"2026-07-09T16:20:30.719361+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-argument-7510944"},"episode":{"title":"Best Of: Liberalism Under Pressure w/ Ezra Klein, Matt Yglesias, & Derek Thompson","slug":"best-of-liberalism-under-pressure-w-ezra-klein-matt-yglesias-derek-thompson","published_at":"2025-12-29T19:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-argument-7510944/best-of-liberalism-under-pressure-w-ezra-klein-matt-yglesias-derek-thompson","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-argument-7510944","url":"https://www.theargumentmag.com/s/the-argument-podcast","audio_url":"https://www.buzzsprout.com/2541989/episodes/18427610-best-of-liberalism-under-pressure-w-ezra-klein-matt-yglesias-derek-thompson.mp3","summary":"At the end of the year, I wanted to revisit our very first podcast conversation with some of my favorite liberal journalists. In our very first live show in Washington, D.C., Derek Thompson, Ezra Klein, and Matt Yglesias joined me for a disagreement-ridden conversation to tape the first episode of our new video podcast, The Argument. We talk about why Matt spends so much of his time arguing with the left, whether Ezra thinks it matters “who shot first” as the right ramps up its att...","meta_description":"At the end of the year, I wanted to revisit our very first podcast conversation with some of my favorite liberal journalists. In our very first live show…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":5691,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-argument-7510944/episodes/best-of-liberalism-under-pressure-w-ezra-klein-matt-yglesias-derek-thompson/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-argument-7510944/best-of-liberalism-under-pressure-w-ezra-klein-matt-yglesias-derek-thompson.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}