{"podcast":{"title":"The AI Policy Podcast","slug":"the-ai-policy-podcast-6758160","podcast_index_feed_id":6758160,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/CSIS8973369418","website_url":null,"image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/95599230-b558-11ee-b177-1b0512fd2559/image/701fb3a802c0fe1fb272911aa040ffc2.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"CSIS","episode_count":100,"summary":"Join CSIS’s Aalok Mehta, Director of the Wadhwani AI Center, on a deep dive into the world of AI policy. Every two weeks, tune in for insightful discussions covering AI regulation, economic impacts, national security, geopolitics, and more. CSIS is a bipartisan think tank in Washington, D.C.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-24T02:21:46.180058+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ai-policy-podcast-6758160"},"episode":{"title":"Jennifer Pahlka on Reforming Government for the AI Era","slug":"jennifer-pahlka-on-reforming-government-for-the-ai-era","published_at":"2026-02-05T14:56:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ai-policy-podcast-6758160/jennifer-pahlka-on-reforming-government-for-the-ai-era","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ai-policy-podcast-6758160","url":"https://traffic.megaphone.fm/CSIS9063680554.mp3","audio_url":"https://traffic.megaphone.fm/CSIS9063680554.mp3","summary":"In this special episode recorded at Fathom’s 2026 Ashby Workshops, Greg sits down with Jennifer Pahlka, founder of Code for America and author of Recoding America: Why Government Is Failing in the Digital Age and How We Can Do Better. Jennifer walks us through her career journey, from filing paperwork at a child welfare agency to helping pioneer the U.S. Digital Services in the Obama administration (3:45). She describes the need for upstream policy reform (11:29), and discusses AI’s potential to both empower public servants to challenge antiquated practices and help policymakers simplify complex regulations (28:03). Finally, Jennifer shares some AI use cases she’s particularly excited about in government (59:34). Jennifer Pahlka is a senior fellow at the Niskanen Center and the Federation of American Scientists and a senior advisor at the Abundance Network. She previously served as U.S. Deputy Chief Technology Officer, helping start the U.S. Digital Services under the second Obama administration, and as a member of the Defense Innovation Network. Read Jennifer’s book Recoding America and check out her Substack Eating Policy. Jennifer’s recommended reading: Hack Your Bureaucracy by Marina Nitze & Nick Sinai Crisis Engineering by Marina Nitze, Matthew Weaver, & Mikey Dickerson The Procedure Fetish by Nicholas Bagley Why Nothing Works by Marc J. Dunkelman Kill It with Fire by Marianne Bellotti","meta_description":"In this special episode recorded at Fathom’s 2026 Ashby Workshops, Greg sits down with Jennifer Pahlka, founder of Code for America and author of Recoding…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4200,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-ai-policy-podcast-6758160/episodes/jennifer-pahlka-on-reforming-government-for-the-ai-era/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ai-policy-podcast-6758160/jennifer-pahlka-on-reforming-government-for-the-ai-era.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}