{"podcast":{"title":"The 404 Media Podcast","slug":"the-404-media-podcast-6582713","podcast_index_feed_id":6582713,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/TBIEA2761282490","website_url":"https://shows.acast.com/the-404-media-podcast","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/0093ee4c-0bda-11ef-93ba-e39e76a9922d/image/377741829a069cbcd768a394f5c235f7.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"404 Media","episode_count":198,"summary":"Welcome to the podcast from 404 Media where Joseph, Sam, Emanuel, and Jason catch you up on the stories we published this week. 404 Media is a journalist-owned digital media company exploring the way technology is shaping–and is shaped by–our world. We bring you unparalleled access to hidden worlds both online and IRL through investigative reporting, smart blogging, and breaking news. At 404 Media you’ll read, and hear, stories you can’t find anywhere else written by journalists who are leading experts on their beats. Subscribe to 404 Media at 404media.co to gain access to an ad-free version of this podcast, as well as a bonus podcast episodes. Subscribers are the bedrock of building a sustainable business for our journalism. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-06T20:17:02.852713+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-404-media-podcast-6582713"},"episode":{"title":"The Lawyer Fighting Government Surveillance for 30 Years (With EFF's Cindy Cohn)","slug":"the-lawyer-fighting-government-surveillance-for-30-years-with-eff-s-cindy-cohn","published_at":"2026-04-06T10:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-404-media-podcast-6582713/the-lawyer-fighting-government-surveillance-for-30-years-with-eff-s-cindy-cohn","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-404-media-podcast-6582713","url":"https://pdst.fm/e/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/arttrk.com/p/2D5E6/mgln.ai/e/1246/tracking.swap.fm/track/AoSMVIl7piQbthzJoBqJ/traffic.megaphone.fm/TBIEA6285366104.mp3?updated=1775255660","audio_url":"https://pdst.fm/e/clrtpod.com/m/pscrb.fm/rss/p/arttrk.com/p/2D5E6/mgln.ai/e/1246/tracking.swap.fm/track/AoSMVIl7piQbthzJoBqJ/traffic.megaphone.fm/TBIEA6285366104.mp3?updated=1775255660","summary":"This week Jason brings you an interview he did with The Electronic Frontier Foundation’s executive director Cindy Cohn, who recently announced she would be stepping down from the legendary digital rights nonprofit after decades of service. Cindy's new book “Privacy’s Defender,” is a memoir of her work to protect Americans’ privacy and fight government surveillance.Privacy’s Defender weaves Cindy’s life story through three incredibly important court cases. Rather than being a dry recounting of three complicated and technical cases, Cindy recounts her strategies in each case, the trials and tribulations she was going through during each period, and the stakes of each case. A quick backgrounder — the cases are Bernstein vs Department of Justice, decided in 1996, which established code and encryption as protected speech under the first amendment, a lasting decision that became critical in Apple’s lawsuit against the FBI in the aftermath of the San Bernardino shooting. It also follows EFF’s lawsuit against AT&T for building a secret backdoor in its internet data centers that gave data to the NSA for warrantless surveillance against American citizens, a case that was built in part around testimony and documents shared by Mark Klein, who showed schematics and design documents for secret surveillance rooms in AT&T’s offices. And finally it follows the Alphabet Cases, which were lawsuits against FBI gag orders for national security letters, which are secret demands for customer information that came with gag orders against internet companies that prevented them from disclosing the fact that the FBI approached them for information. Those cases concerned both Cloudflare and a telecom company called CREDO, and went on for many years. Our interview with Cindy shows that the…","meta_description":"This week Jason brings you an interview he did with The Electronic Frontier Foundation’s executive director Cindy Cohn, who recently announced she would b…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3292,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-404-media-podcast-6582713/episodes/the-lawyer-fighting-government-surveillance-for-30-years-with-eff-s-cindy-cohn/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-404-media-podcast-6582713/the-lawyer-fighting-government-surveillance-for-30-years-with-eff-s-cindy-cohn.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}