{"podcast":{"title":"That's So Mental","slug":"that-s-so-mental-7108791","podcast_index_feed_id":7108791,"rss_url":"https://feeds.acast.com/public/shows/673bcb9a9f81126104709d4a","website_url":"https://shows.acast.com/thats-so-mental","image_url":"https://assets.pippa.io/shows/673bcb9a9f81126104709d4a/1732314797717-a2641717-933d-4f42-b67c-81afebf40cd3.jpeg","author":"Cristina Fernandez & Ilana Cohn Sullivan","episode_count":64,"summary":"Welcome to That’s So Mental. Each week, comedians Ilana Cohn Sullivan and Cristina Fernandez will dive deep into the labyrinth that is the human brain. These ladies have no business giving advice on mental health, but they sure do have a lot of opinions and some experiences with full blown mental breakdowns. . Alongside guest artists and actual mental health experts Cristina and Ilana explore what makes them tick, artistic blocks, and what it’s like to cope with a creative mind. Join them as they discuss different topics including motherhood, menopause, mantras and psychedelic therapy. Follow along on the journey! Follow Ilana @ ilanainla & Cristina @ theonecristinafernandez on Instagram. Theme Music: Mike Costantini Sound Engineer: Kevin Lu Special Thanks: Elizabeth Baquet & Dave Kneebone Recording: Ninth Planet Audio Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-01T22:17:50.200148+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/that-s-so-mental-7108791"},"episode":{"title":"Complex PTSD Leads to Fawning With Ingrid Clayton","slug":"complex-ptsd-leads-to-fawning-with-ingrid-clayton","published_at":"2026-02-25T11:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/that-s-so-mental-7108791/complex-ptsd-leads-to-fawning-with-ingrid-clayton","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/that-s-so-mental-7108791","url":"https://shows.acast.com/thats-so-mental/episodes/ingrid-clayton","audio_url":"https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/673bcb9a9f81126104709d4a/e/699e394243ceb0105d92c426/media.mp3","summary":"Psychologist and author Dr. Ingrid Clayton joins Ilana and Cristina to share how her own complex PTSD led her to write, \"Fawning: Why the Need to Please Makes Us Lose Ourselves--and How to Find Our Way Back.\" These three delightful recovering fawners have a powerful conversation that illuminates how fawning happens and how to widen your window of tolerance, grow, and accept where you're at. The move towards \"unfawning\" takes work, can feel bad, but curiosity can start to get you back in contact with your own body and self. . . maybe for the first time. Also, fuck Epstein and how the women who have spoken out are being treated. We see you Pam, and we think you're a raging cunt. Shoutouts: Erin McAnoy, Michelle Villemaire, Resmaa Menakem's \"My Grandmother's Hands,\" Endorsements: REST! Not because you're burn out but rest for rest's sake, easy STRETCHING, and CURIOSITY Click to Follow on IG: That's So Mental , Ilana Cohn Sullivan , Cristina Fernandez and guest Ingrid Clayton check out her website here: https://www.ingridclayton.com/ MORE TSM: That's So Mental FB , TikTok , TSM YouTube Email us at thatssomentalpodcast@gmail.com . Thank you to our producer and sound engineer, Elizabeth Baquet and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio. Theme song created by Mike Costantini. Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely. Hosted on Acast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","meta_description":"Psychologist and author Dr. Ingrid Clayton joins Ilana and Cristina to share how her own complex PTSD led her to write, \"Fawning: Why the Need to Please M…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2905,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/that-s-so-mental-7108791/episodes/complex-ptsd-leads-to-fawning-with-ingrid-clayton/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/that-s-so-mental-7108791/complex-ptsd-leads-to-fawning-with-ingrid-clayton.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}