{"podcast":{"title":"Tech, Innovation & Society - The Creative Process: Technology, AI, Software, Future, Economy, Science, Engineering & Robotics Interviews","slug":"tech-innovation-and-society","podcast_index_feed_id":4619724,"rss_url":"https://thecreativeprocess.squarespace.com/technology-innovation-society?format=rss","website_url":"https://www.creativeprocess.info/technology-innovation-society/","image_url":"https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5745d9f137013b9d0a627c60/1639592521072-0QC3XJM7TBVIQ3IYDYKU/technology-innovation-society-creative-process-podcast-logo.png?format=1500w","author":"Mia Funk","episode_count":299,"summary":"Rethinking tomorrow. We focus on technology, innovation, society, AI, science, engineering, the economy & issues facing people & the planet. Leading thinkers, organizations & environmentalists discuss technology, creativity & pathways for a more sustainable future. Exploring the fascinating minds of creative people. Conversations with writers, artists & creative thinkers across the Arts & STEM. We discuss their life, work & artistic practice. Winners of Oscar, Emmy, Tony, Pulitzer, leaders & public figures share real experiences & offer valuable insights. Notable guests and participating museums and organizations include: Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences, Neil Patrick Harris, Smithsonian, Roxane Gay, Musée Picasso, EARTHDAY.ORG, Neil Gaiman, UNESCO, Joyce Carol Oates, Mark Seliger, Acropolis Museum, Hilary Mantel, Songwriters Hall of Fame, George Saunders, The New Museum, Lemony Snicket, Pritzker Architecture Prize, Hans-Ulrich Obrist, Serpentine Galleries, Joe Mantegna, PETA, Greenpeace, EPA, Morgan Library & Museum, and many others. The interviews are hosted by founder and creative educator Mia Funk with the participation of students, universities, and collaborators fro…","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/tech-innovation-and-society"},"episode":{"title":"The Score: How to Stop Playing Somebody Else's Game with C. THI NGUYEN","slug":"the-score-how-to-stop-playing-somebody-else-s-game-with-c-thi-nguyen","published_at":"2026-03-13T18:23:43+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/tech-innovation-and-society/the-score-how-to-stop-playing-somebody-else-s-game-with-c-thi-nguyen","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/tech-innovation-and-society","url":"https://www.creativeprocess.info/technology-innovation-society/c-thi-nguyen-hw8e9","audio_url":"https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5745d9f137013b9d0a627c60/t/69b455edafb86d67a224ea9e/1773426210892/c+thi+nguyen+FULL+FINAL+FINAL+NEW.mp3","summary":"Philosopher C. Thi Nguyen explores 'value capture,' the phenomenon where we replace intrinsic human values with measurable, external metrics. He argues that true agency requires resisting the urge to optimize our lives for leaderboards and instead embracing the unquantifiable creative process.","meta_description":"C. Thi Nguyen discusses how to reclaim agency from the metrics-driven systems of modern life and avoid the trap of value capture.","key_points":["Main idea: Value capture occurs when we stop caring about an experience and start obsessing solely over its measurable metric","Failure mode: Optimizing for efficiency and easy numbers strips away the vital human context and the beauty of struggle","Practical takeaway: Use small, structured goals—like fishing—as 'cues' to foster deeper attunement to the world without becoming obsessed with the score","Definition: Art differs from craft because art involves entering a process without knowing the final outcome or value","Critical insight: Technology and systems like databases are never value-neutral; they inherently shape the behaviors they track"],"chapters":[{"start_ms":60000,"title":"The Philosophy of Agency","summary":"An introduction to C. Thi Nguyen's work on how invisible structures and scoring systems define modern existence."},{"start_ms":710000,"title":"The Trap of Value Capture","summary":"Defining how external metrics like likes, ratings, and scores take over our personal values."},{"start_ms":1370000,"title":"The Politics of Metrics","summary":"How the pursuit of measurable success can destabilize social norms and democratic processes."},{"start_ms":2330000,"title":"The Politics of Technology","summary":"Discussing the idea that tools and engineering are never value-neutral and always carry inherent biases."},{"start_ms":2660000,"title":"AI and the Creative Process","summary":"Examining the tension between automated efficiency and the essential human element of creativity."},{"start_ms":3320000,"title":"Outsourcing Your Values","summary":"The danger of letting distant, external sources dictate what we find meaningful."},{"start_ms":3630000,"title":"The Spirit of Play","summary":"How to use rule-based systems creatively to explore the world without becoming dogmatic."}],"topics":["Philosophy","Value Capture","Game Design","Technology Ethics","Artificial Intelligence","Creativity","Quantification","Agency"],"duration_seconds":4323,"processing_state":"processed","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/tech-innovation-and-society/episodes/the-score-how-to-stop-playing-somebody-else-s-game-with-c-thi-nguyen/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/tech-innovation-and-society/the-score-how-to-stop-playing-somebody-else-s-game-with-c-thi-nguyen.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}