{"podcast":{"title":"TBPN","slug":"tbpn-7037852","podcast_index_feed_id":7037852,"rss_url":"https://feeds.transistor.fm/technology-brother","website_url":"https://tbpn.com","image_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/JKCXKMFC8DxrWx6hOFD_HdcDjLAqNP3rWp-35R-vubg/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:1400/h:1400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9iYWQ5/N2FkMzQ2MGY4Zjg5/ZDczMGExMTA5NjEz/Y2MyMC5wbmc.jpg","author":"TBPN Corp","episode_count":629,"summary":"TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays from 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with full episodes posted to Spotify immediately after airing. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” TBPN has interviewed Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella. Diet TBPN delivers the best moments from each episode in under 30 minutes.","last_synced_at":"2026-08-01T10:18:26.617622+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/tbpn-7037852"},"episode":{"title":"Leopold's 13F, Data Center Fixes, Shein Buys Everlane | Mike Isaac, Rowan Trollope, Dean Leitersdorf, Joanna Stern","slug":"leopold-s-13f-data-center-fixes-shein-buys-everlane-mike-isaac-rowan-trollope-dean-leitersdorf-joanna-stern","published_at":"2026-05-18T21:19:44+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/tbpn-7037852/leopold-s-13f-data-center-fixes-shein-buys-everlane-mike-isaac-rowan-trollope-dean-leitersdorf-joanna-stern","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/tbpn-7037852","url":"https://share.transistor.fm/s/d6d0bc1f","audio_url":"https://media.transistor.fm/d6d0bc1f/c116d0f4.mp3","summary":"(00:17) - Jury Rules Against Musk (02:23) - Leopold's Situational Awareness 13F Is Out (16:03) - Data Center Backlash Gets Serious (44:47) - Mike Isaac, a technology reporter at The New York Times, discusses Elon Musk's lawsuit against OpenAI, highlighting Musk's strategy of using memorable phrases like \"you can't steal a charity\" to appeal to jurors unfamiliar with nonprofit contract law. He notes that OpenAI's defense centered on the statute of limitations, a more technical argument that ultimately swayed the jury's decision. Isaac also mentions the unexpected nature of the verdict and the various protest groups outside the courtroom. (01:07:52) - Rowan Trollope is the CEO of Redis, where he leads the company’s efforts to expand the popular in-memory database platform into a broader real-time data and AI infrastructure business. He previously held senior leadership roles at Cisco and Five9, and is known for scaling enterprise software and cloud communications companies. (01:28:26) - Shein Buys Everlane (01:39:04) - Dean Leitersdorf is the co-founder and CEO of Decart, an AI company focused on generative models and real-time AI infrastructure. He works on building systems that make advanced AI applications faster, more interactive, and easier to deploy at scale. (01:54:56) - Protein Shortage (02:04:02) - Joanna Stern is a senior personal technology columnist at The Wall Street Journal, where she covers consumer technology, AI, gadgets, and the impact of tech on everyday life. She is also the author of I Am Not a Robot, a book exploring the increasingly blurred line between humans and machines in the age of AI. Follow TBPN: https://TBPN.com https://x.com/tbpn https://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/…","meta_description":"(00:17) - Jury Rules Against Musk (02:23) - Leopold's Situational Awareness 13F Is Out (16:03) - Data Center Backlash Gets Serious (44:47) - Mike Isaac, a…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":10605,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/tbpn-7037852/episodes/leopold-s-13f-data-center-fixes-shein-buys-everlane-mike-isaac-rowan-trollope-dean-leitersdorf-joanna-stern/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/tbpn-7037852/leopold-s-13f-data-center-fixes-shein-buys-everlane-mike-isaac-rowan-trollope-dean-leitersdorf-joanna-stern.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}