{"podcast":{"title":"Talks by Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee","slug":"talks-by-zen-roshi-lola-mcdowell-lee-6423598","podcast_index_feed_id":6423598,"rss_url":"https://media.rss.com/ing-publishing/feed.xml","website_url":"https://rss.com/podcasts/ing-publishing","image_url":"https://media.rss.com/ing-publishing/20230817_120814_85fafd61824aa95fd155cb2b0c194620.jpg","author":"I & A Publishing","episode_count":141,"summary":"This is a series of newly digitized talks by spiritual teacher, Lola McDowell Lee, spanning two decades—from the early Seventies through the Nineties. Lola was a Zen Roshi whose Rinzai lineage included Doctor Henry Platov and renowned Zen master, Shigetsu Sasaki. Lola was a religious scholar as well as an ordained Christian minister. While the talks are focused mainly on Zen and Buddhism, Lola drew on many spiritual traditions—including those of Jesus, Plato, Lao-Tzu, the Hindu Vedas, Meister Eckhart and Gurdjieff. If you find Lola’s talks valuable, more will be posted in days to come. RSSVERIFY","last_synced_at":"2026-07-26T18:18:31.447349+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/talks-by-zen-roshi-lola-mcdowell-lee-6423598"},"episode":{"title":"Where Taoism, Christianity and Zen meet.  Delivered August 17, 1986","slug":"where-taoism-christianity-and-zen-meet-delivered-august-17-1986","published_at":"2026-07-12T15:41:15+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/talks-by-zen-roshi-lola-mcdowell-lee-6423598/where-taoism-christianity-and-zen-meet-delivered-august-17-1986","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/talks-by-zen-roshi-lola-mcdowell-lee-6423598","url":"https://rss.com/podcasts/ing-publishing/2980335","audio_url":"https://content.rss.com/episodes/214545/2980335/ing-publishing/2026_07_11_21_18_41_d5f1d81a-7a39-40ca-8bcb-f1160ed7f07c.mp3","summary":"Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee explores the interplay between ego, consciousness, and the spiritual path, drawing on Taoist, Buddhist, and Christian traditions. She explores the Taoist message of flowing with existence, free from effort or resistance. By aligning oneself with the totality of life, one can move beyond fear and obstruction. Lola recounts the biblical narrative of Adam and Eve and the loss of innocence and the rise of the ego. If the Garden of Eden is a state of unconditioned innocence, then the Fall represents the emergence of self-consciousness, discrimination, and dualistic thinking. Naming things acts as a barrier between humans and direct experience. By labeling the world, we create an illusion of knowledge, often losing sight of the underlying reality that exists beyond these labels. One needs to move past this reliance on names and differentiation, which keeps us trapped in our egos. She explains how the practice of the Zen koan is not to find rational answers but to exhaust the thinking mind. Through persistent meditation, the practitioner eventually reaches a point of mental fatigue, where language and dualistic logic dissolve, allowing for a non-linguistic experience of truth. This collapse of the ego allows one to experience reality as it is, unobstructed by concepts or names. Lola explains that Zen is not about withdrawal from the world, but rather about cultivating an inner emptiness that supports one's engagement with daily life without being identified with the ego. Wu Wei (non-action) is not passive inaction but a state of conscious alertness where one flows with life's natural rhythms. Letting go of the ego allows one to experience the joy and serenity of being truly awake. Delivered August 17, 1986","meta_description":"Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee explores the interplay between ego, consciousness, and the spiritual path, drawing on Taoist, Buddhist, and Christian traditi…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2477,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/talks-by-zen-roshi-lola-mcdowell-lee-6423598/episodes/where-taoism-christianity-and-zen-meet-delivered-august-17-1986/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/talks-by-zen-roshi-lola-mcdowell-lee-6423598/where-taoism-christianity-and-zen-meet-delivered-august-17-1986.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}