{"podcast":{"title":"Talks by Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee","slug":"talks-by-zen-roshi-lola-mcdowell-lee-6423598","podcast_index_feed_id":6423598,"rss_url":"https://media.rss.com/ing-publishing/feed.xml","website_url":"https://rss.com/podcasts/ing-publishing","image_url":"https://media.rss.com/ing-publishing/20230817_120814_85fafd61824aa95fd155cb2b0c194620.jpg","author":"I & A Publishing","episode_count":141,"summary":"This is a series of newly digitized talks by spiritual teacher, Lola McDowell Lee, spanning two decades—from the early Seventies through the Nineties. Lola was a Zen Roshi whose Rinzai lineage included Doctor Henry Platov and renowned Zen master, Shigetsu Sasaki. Lola was a religious scholar as well as an ordained Christian minister. While the talks are focused mainly on Zen and Buddhism, Lola drew on many spiritual traditions—including those of Jesus, Plato, Lao-Tzu, the Hindu Vedas, Meister Eckhart and Gurdjieff. If you find Lola’s talks valuable, more will be posted in days to come. RSSVERIFY","last_synced_at":"2026-07-26T18:18:31.447349+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/talks-by-zen-roshi-lola-mcdowell-lee-6423598"},"episode":{"title":"How you form your ego—and can ultimately overcome it.  Jun 28, 1987","slug":"how-you-form-your-ego-and-can-ultimately-overcome-it-jun-28-1987","published_at":"2025-11-02T16:56:36+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/talks-by-zen-roshi-lola-mcdowell-lee-6423598/how-you-form-your-ego-and-can-ultimately-overcome-it-jun-28-1987","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/talks-by-zen-roshi-lola-mcdowell-lee-6423598","url":"https://rss.com/podcasts/ing-publishing/2294035","audio_url":"https://content.rss.com/episodes/214545/2294035/ing-publishing/2025_10_27_18_23_47_60567879-bd5a-4916-adde-5360c05841ed.mp3","summary":"Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee, tells a parable about a powerful Chinese prime minister, who was a devoted Zen student. When the minister asked his master, \"how does Zen explain egotism?\" the master insulted him, calling him a \"numbskull\". As the minister's face filled with anger and hurt feelings, the master smiled and said, \"Your Excellency, this is ego\". Lola explains that this ego is our very basic problem. Paradoxically, we need It presents we need the ego to function in the world, yet it is also our biggest stumbling block to discovering our true identity. Most people, she says, are so caught up in this pseudo self that they don't even know how to begin looking for the True Self. She explains that the rules of Zen practice, such as the sesshin , are designed to force practitioners to observe oneself and one’s reactions. Lola explains how the formation of the ego begins in infancy. A child, Lola says, is born like a tabula rasa or \"clean slate.\" Everything—food, love, comfort—comes from out there. The sense of me is formed later, in contrast to “other\". This \"me\" is a \"reflected awareness\". It is a reflective center built entirely from the opinions of others, starting with the mother. If the mother smiles and appreciates the child, the child feels valuable, and this positive reflection builds the ego . Conversely, if the mother ignores the child, the child feels worthless and rejected, which builds an \"ill ego.\" This ego is necessary. The True Self can only be known by passing through this ego. The path is to first know \"other,\" then \"me\" (the reflection), and finally to see that reflection as the illusion it is. As the child becomes an adult, the search for the true self begins, but it's often misguided. People look to religion, but with nearly 400 sects, they usua…","meta_description":"Zen Roshi, Lola McDowell Lee, tells a parable about a powerful Chinese prime minister, who was a devoted Zen student. When the minister asked his master,…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3425,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/talks-by-zen-roshi-lola-mcdowell-lee-6423598/episodes/how-you-form-your-ego-and-can-ultimately-overcome-it-jun-28-1987/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/talks-by-zen-roshi-lola-mcdowell-lee-6423598/how-you-form-your-ego-and-can-ultimately-overcome-it-jun-28-1987.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}