{"podcast":{"title":"Talking Billions with Bogumil Baranowski","slug":"talking-billions-with-bogumil-baranowski-5857987","podcast_index_feed_id":5857987,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/bc3d43f4/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://www.talkingbillions.co/","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_nologo/31481317/31481317-1669224125075-007cf26437884.jpg","author":"Bogumil Baranowski","episode_count":304,"summary":"EVERY MONDAY A NEW EPISODE. I READ ALL MY EMAILS - contact form on my website - www.bogumilbaranowski.com. TELL ME YOUR STORY. I’m Bogumil Baranowski, an author, a TEDx speaker, an investor, and an investment advisor to families and individuals. Intimate conversations about money, wealth, and living a rich and fulfilling life. We talk about big ideas, big inspirations, big topics. We take on the hardest subject of all – money: how to make it, save it, keep it, but our conversations lead us to an even bigger question — what it means to live a rich life beyond money. 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