{"podcast":{"title":"Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn","slug":"super-data-science","podcast_index_feed_id":220402,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/SUPERDATASCIENCEPTYLTD9836501887","website_url":"https://www.superdatascience.com/podcast","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/efa92454-1c31-11ef-9e30-03596b470c27/image/fa89a437c64da92a50cbd840aa42abfd.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Jon Krohn","episode_count":1012,"summary":"The latest machine learning, A.I., and data career topics from across both academia and industry are brought to you by host Dr. Jon Krohn on the Super Data Science Podcast. As the quantity of data on our planet doubles every couple of years and with this trend set to continue for decades to come, there's an unprecedented opportunity for you to make a meaningful impact in your lifetime. In conversation with the biggest names in the data science industry, Jon cuts through hype to fuel that professional impact. Whether you're curious about getting started in a data career or you're a deep technical expert, whether you'd like to understand what A.I. is or you'd like to integrate more data-driven processes into your business, we have inspiring guests and lighthearted conversation for you to enjoy. We cover tools, techniques, and implementation tricks across data collection, databases, analytics, predictive modeling, visualization, software engineering, real-world applications, commercialization, and entrepreneurship − everything you need to crush it with data science.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-22T00:21:00.507750+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/super-data-science"},"episode":{"title":"1011: The Math Still Matters: Deep Skills in the Age of AI, with Dr. Catherine Williams","slug":"1011-the-math-still-matters-deep-skills-in-the-age-of-ai-with-dr-catherine-williams","published_at":"2026-07-21T11:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/super-data-science/1011-the-math-still-matters-deep-skills-in-the-age-of-ai-with-dr-catherine-williams","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/super-data-science","url":"https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/chrt.fm/track/E581B9/arttrk.com/p/VI4CS/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/SUPERDATASCIENCEPTYLTD6294702314.mp3","audio_url":"https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/chrt.fm/track/E581B9/arttrk.com/p/VI4CS/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/SUPERDATASCIENCEPTYLTD6294702314.mp3","summary":"Dr. Catherine Williams, Chief Data Officer at the nonprofit Candid, was solving black-hole equations with pen and paper before she ever wrote a line of code. She earned a PhD in math researching general relativity and black holes, did postdocs at Stanford and Columbia and then became one of the very first data scientists, joining AppNexus back in 2012, around the same time “data scientist” became a job title at all. In this episode, she traces the field’s evolution from Bayesian models to BERT to today’s LLMs, and makes a compelling case that going deep on the underlying math matters more than ever, even now that AI can do the math for you.  Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.superdatascience.com/1011⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (02:40) Catherine’s black hole and general relativity research (13:18) The intellectual habits that carried from math into leadership (16:14) Whether deep math still matters in the age of LLMs (44:10) The BERT moment and the embeddings revolution (48:22) Why frontier capability keeps getting cheaper (57:54) Catherine’s leadership advice: think one level up","meta_description":"Dr. Catherine Williams, Chief Data Officer at the nonprofit Candid, was solving black-hole equations with pen and paper before she ever wrote a line of co…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4191,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/super-data-science/episodes/1011-the-math-still-matters-deep-skills-in-the-age-of-ai-with-dr-catherine-williams/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/super-data-science/1011-the-math-still-matters-deep-skills-in-the-age-of-ai-with-dr-catherine-williams.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}