{"podcast":{"title":"START","slug":"start-7171926","podcast_index_feed_id":7171926,"rss_url":"https://feeds.transistor.fm/startup-growth-podcast","website_url":"https://www.tryfondo.com/","image_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/_piHi4M4ohHZpDkziNHWWksxxbatgWrUdPwb5S4zcyo/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:1400/h:1400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS80NzVj/MDEzNjkxNjU1N2Uy/NDFhMDQ3M2ZhNWI3/NWY0MS5wbmc.jpg","author":"Fondo","episode_count":97,"summary":"Fondo is an all-in-one accounting platform for startups. Get your books closed, taxes filed, and cash back from the IRS.","last_synced_at":"2026-08-01T06:21:07.655766+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/start-7171926"},"episode":{"title":"🎧 START pod: Lucas Ngoo, Co-founder & CEO, Cortex AI \"The Real World Is the Next Training Ground for Embodied AI\"","slug":"start-pod-lucas-ngoo-co-founder-ceo-cortex-ai-the-real-world-is-the-next-training-ground-for-embodied-ai","published_at":"2026-03-19T19:30:29+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/start-7171926/start-pod-lucas-ngoo-co-founder-ceo-cortex-ai-the-real-world-is-the-next-training-ground-for-embodied-ai","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/start-7171926","url":"https://share.transistor.fm/s/e44665c6","audio_url":"https://media.transistor.fm/e44665c6/8843c41f.mp3","summary":"The internet was the training set for intelligence Nobody has built the equivalent for the physical world Previously, Lucas Ngoo co-founded Carousell, scaled it past $1B Now at Cortex AI he's collecting the data robotics labs need to train foundation models Cameras, VR headsets, glasses on factory workers, retail workers, everyday people. Recording real-world manipulation work (Maybe tens of millions, even hundreds of millions of hours) Not building the robot. Not training the model. Collecting what goes in 2026: scale data in a big way 2027+: start rolling robots out, 90% teleoperation, 10% autonomy While humans step in, the system keeps learning That's the flywheel toward full autonomy 01:38 Cortex as the data layer for general-purpose robotics 02:19 Why text data doesn’t transfer cleanly to the real world 02:51 Recording day-to-day human manipulation work 03:23 “Tens of millions” to “hundreds of millions of hours” of data 06:37 Cortex’s role: “We are really the data piece” 07:28 When humanoids become part of everyday life 08:00 2026 as the year data scales 08:13 90% teleoperation, 10% autonomy 08:37 Data flywheel toward full autonomy 08:55 Synthetic data + real-world data reinforcing each other","meta_description":"The internet was the training set for intelligence Nobody has built the equivalent for the physical world Previously, Lucas Ngoo co-founded Carousell, sca…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":646,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/start-7171926/episodes/start-pod-lucas-ngoo-co-founder-ceo-cortex-ai-the-real-world-is-the-next-training-ground-for-embodied-ai/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/start-7171926/start-pod-lucas-ngoo-co-founder-ceo-cortex-ai-the-real-world-is-the-next-training-ground-for-embodied-ai.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}