{"podcast":{"title":"Sounds of SAND","slug":"sounds-of-sand-5690251","podcast_index_feed_id":5690251,"rss_url":"https://app.kajabi.com/podcasts/2147505844/feed","website_url":"https://we.scienceandnonduality.com/podcasts/sounds-of-sand","image_url":"https://kajabi-storefronts-production.kajabi-cdn.com/kajabi-storefronts-production/file-uploads/site/2147497225/podcasts/ebee3ce-a804-46ad-65c1-b6f30c8bce_sounds-of-sand-2023-3000.png","author":"Science and Nonduality","episode_count":177,"summary":"Sounds of SAND invites listeners into a contemplative journey through the infinite cycles of existence - from its raw beauty to its deepest mysteries, from its intricate complexity to its profound wonder. Through intimate conversations, thought-provoking interviews, poetic readings, and carefully curated music, we weave together ancient wisdom with lived experience, creating a tapestry of sound that honors the great questions of being","last_synced_at":"2026-07-10T00:20:30.350731+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/sounds-of-sand-5690251"},"episode":{"title":"\"If I Must Die\": Samah Jabr & Mays Imad","slug":"if-i-must-die-samah-jabr-mays-imad","published_at":"2026-02-19T14:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/sounds-of-sand-5690251/if-i-must-die-samah-jabr-mays-imad","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/sounds-of-sand-5690251","url":"https://we.scienceandnonduality.com/podcasts/sounds-of-sand/episodes/2149168167","audio_url":"https://app.kajabi.com/podcasts/medias/2149168167.mp3","summary":"Recorded live at a SAND Community Gathering (Feb 2026) Dr. Samah Jabr , a Palestinian psychiatrist and author of Radiance in Pain and Resilience, joins Dr. Mays Imad (with questions from the audience chat) for a conversation about  what it means to stay human when the structures meant to protect people are the ones doing the harm. Drawing on decades of clinical work inside the occupation, Dr. Jabr moves past the “sanitized” versions of trauma to speak directly to the heart of colonial harm in Palestine. Central to this dialogue is an exploration of the deep ontological differences between Western psychiatric models and Palestinian lived experience. While Western frameworks often pathologize the individual through the lens of PTSD, Dr. Jabr introduces the concept of iptila —viewing tribulations through a framework of agency, faith, and collective endurance. She challenges the frequent romanticization of sumud (steadfastness), reframing it not as a poetic trope, but as a grueling relational practice and an ethical refusal to disappear when everything conspires toward Palestinian erasure. In a reality where the harm never ends, memory becomes a battlefield, grief a form of testimony, bearing witness an active refusal to normalize the unacceptable, and storytelling a vital survival infrastructure against the assassination of memory. Join Dr. Samah Jabr · March 1, 8, 15 & 22, 2026 • 9:00 – 11:00am PST Decolonial Mental Health Practice: Clinical and Ethical Insights from Palestine A four-part webinar presented by SAND Topics 00:00 Welcome & Why We Need a New Framework for Trauma and Justice 02:15 “If I Must Die”: Carrying Memory, Refusing Normalization 03:13 Introducing Dr. Samah Jabr’s Work: Pain, Power, and a Counter-Narrative 07:55 A Childhood Lesson in Namin…","meta_description":"Recorded live at a SAND Community Gathering (Feb 2026) Dr. Samah Jabr , a Palestinian psychiatrist and author of Radiance in Pain and Resilience, joins Dr…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":5218,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/sounds-of-sand-5690251/episodes/if-i-must-die-samah-jabr-mays-imad/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/sounds-of-sand-5690251/if-i-must-die-samah-jabr-mays-imad.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}