{"podcast":{"title":"Song Exploder","slug":"song-exploder-390830","podcast_index_feed_id":390830,"rss_url":"https://feed.songexploder.net/SongExploder","website_url":"http://www.songexploder.net","image_url":"https://f.prxu.org/song-exploder/images/3b97a9c5-fef1-4c84-8038-3c6efa808016/songexploder-logo-2025-with-title.jpg","author":"Hrishikesh Hirway (Maggie.Gourville@prx.org)","episode_count":372,"summary":"Song Exploder is a podcast where musicians take apart their songs, and piece by piece, tell the story of how they were made. Each episode features an artist discussing a song of theirs, breaking down the sounds and ideas that went into the writing and recording. Hosted and produced by Hrishikesh Hirway.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-23T04:21:00.468054+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/song-exploder-390830"},"episode":{"title":"Key Change: Rian Johnson on Wagner's 'Das Rheingold'","slug":"key-change-rian-johnson-on-wagner-s-das-rheingold","published_at":"2025-12-10T17:30:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/song-exploder-390830/key-change-rian-johnson-on-wagner-s-das-rheingold","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/song-exploder-390830","url":"https://play.prx.org/listen?ge=prx_93_194d7573-c8db-4380-98d0-a2da51e6fcaa&uf=http%3A%2F%2Ffeed.songexploder.net%2FSongExploder","audio_url":"https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/tracking.swap.fm/track/sblTq32fyWAjsHzze2LG/dovetail.prxu.org/_/93/194d7573-c8db-4380-98d0-a2da51e6fcaa/KeyChange10-RianJohnson-Part1.mp3","summary":"My guest today is director Rian Johnson, which is exciting for me, because I’ve been a huge fan of his ever since seeing his first feature film, ‘Brick,' in 2006. Since then, he’s made six more feature films, including ‘Looper‘ in 2012; ‘Star Wars: The Last Jedi‘ in 2017; the murder mystery ‘Knives Out‘ in 2019; and his most recent movie, another in the 'Knives Out' series, ‘Wake Up Dead Man,‘ which is already out in theaters, and comes to Netflix on December 12. I talked to Rian about a piece of music that had a profound impact on him, which was the overture to ‘Das Rheingold‘ by Richard Wagner. For more info, visit songexploder.net/rian-johnson.","meta_description":"My guest today is director Rian Johnson, which is exciting for me, because I’ve been a huge fan of his ever since seeing his first feature film, ‘Brick,'…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1404,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/song-exploder-390830/episodes/key-change-rian-johnson-on-wagner-s-das-rheingold/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/song-exploder-390830/key-change-rian-johnson-on-wagner-s-das-rheingold.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}