{"podcast":{"title":"So to Speak: The Free Speech Podcast","slug":"so-to-speak-the-free-speech-podcast-705607","podcast_index_feed_id":705607,"rss_url":"https://sotospeak.libsyn.com/rss","website_url":"http://www.sotospeakpodcast.com","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/3/d/c/f/3dcf57f0d4d3244d27a2322813b393ee/STS_Libsyn_Graphic-20240726-s0w7i4wl32.jpg","author":"So to Speak: The Free Speech Podcast","episode_count":279,"summary":"So to Speak: The Free Speech Podcast takes an uncensored look at the world of free expression through the law, philosophy, and stories that define your right to free speech. Hosted by FIRE's Nico Perrino. New episodes post every other Thursday.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-11T04:22:08.710490+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/so-to-speak-the-free-speech-podcast-705607"},"episode":{"title":"Ep. 257: Conversion therapy at the Supreme Court","slug":"ep-257-conversion-therapy-at-the-supreme-court","published_at":"2025-11-13T15:38:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/so-to-speak-the-free-speech-podcast-705607/ep-257-conversion-therapy-at-the-supreme-court","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/so-to-speak-the-free-speech-podcast-705607","url":"https://sotospeak.libsyn.com/ep-257-conversion-therapy-at-the-supreme-court","audio_url":"https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/sotospeak/FC_STS-257_RONNIE_CONOR_03.mp3?dest-id=601059","summary":"FIRE's Ronnie London and Conor Fitzpatrick join the show to discuss the Supreme Court's oral argument in the conversion therapy case, the Pentagon's new press rules, Indiana University's censorship rampage, and where the situation stands with visa and green card holders who say things the feds don't like. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:19 Chiles v. Salazar, the conversion therapy case 30:03 The Pentagon's new press rules 48:48 What the hell is going on at Indiana University? 55:38 Feds boot noncitizens for Charlie Kirk speech 01:05:02 Outro Enjoy listening to the podcast? Donate to FIRE today ( https://www.thefire.org/ ) and get exclusive content like member webinars, special episodes, and more. If you became a FIRE Member through a donation to FIRE at thefire.org and would like access to Substack's paid subscriber podcast feed, please email sotospeak@thefire.org .","meta_description":"FIRE's Ronnie London and Conor Fitzpatrick join the show to discuss the Supreme Court's oral argument in the conversion therapy case, the Pentagon's new p…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3950,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/so-to-speak-the-free-speech-podcast-705607/episodes/ep-257-conversion-therapy-at-the-supreme-court/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/so-to-speak-the-free-speech-podcast-705607/ep-257-conversion-therapy-at-the-supreme-court.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}