{"podcast":{"title":"Smart Friends","slug":"smart-friends-2136135","podcast_index_feed_id":2136135,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/SOMC8581176390","website_url":"https://www.ejorgenson.com/podcast/","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/fae742a2-db05-11ec-a787-5b6fc0a4f209/image/ad94dd4d3d8679e0de87602a070d58f9.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Eric Jorgenson","episode_count":123,"summary":"Casual conversations with founders, technologists, investors, and artists about building a brighter future, together. Welcome to our digital living room. With science, technology and entrepreneurship we can *continue* to create unfathomable leaps in quality of life. We show you how to find, apply, build, and invest in technologies to change your life and the world. When we have smart friends, we do smart things. When we do smart things, we save the world. No matter who, where, or when you are – now you have smart friends, too. Outside this podcast, I’m the author of The Almanack of Naval Ravikant and The Anthology of Balaji. Connect at ejorgenson.com Laugh and learn with people like Balaji Srinivasan, Naval Ravikant, Andrew Wilkinson, Austen Allred, David Senra, Josh Storrs Hall, Ashley Rindsberg, Zach Pettet, Bret Kugelmass, Omar ElNaggar, Grace Guo, Brett Kopf, Max Olson, Chris Williamson, Shane Mac, Tim Hwang, David Perell, Jason Hitchcock, Natalia Karayaneva, Sebastian Marshall, Taylor Pearson, Mitchell Baldridge and more. Join conversations with my partners in early-stage tech investing, Bo Fishback and Al Doan. Our Rolling Fun Episodes cover our investments and escapades as…","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/smart-friends-2136135"},"episode":{"title":"#102 ​The Next Renaissance, AI Reality vs Hype, and a Movement of Hope with Zack Kass","slug":"102-the-next-renaissance-ai-reality-vs-hype-and-a-movement-of-hope-with-zack-kass","published_at":"2026-05-05T13:59:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/smart-friends-2136135/102-the-next-renaissance-ai-reality-vs-hype-and-a-movement-of-hope-with-zack-kass","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/smart-friends-2136135","url":"https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/traffic.megaphone.fm/DTSOS3175543722.mp3?updated=1777990496","audio_url":"https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/traffic.megaphone.fm/DTSOS3175543722.mp3?updated=1777990496","summary":"Topics: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:02:40) - Being the “tech for middle America” translator (00:06:00) - Who are your heroes? (00:13:40) - Zack’s unique approach to AI (00:57:35) - The market for identity transformation (01:11:08) - Writing the next renaissance (01:15:31) - Using AI in the writing process (01:18:25) - Final thoughts Links: The Next Renaissance by Zack Kass - https://a.co/d/07VwLrg4 Zack’s website - https://www.zackkass.com/ To support the costs of producing this podcast: >> Buy a copy of the Navalmanack: www.navalmanack.com/ >> Buy a copy of The Anthology of Balaji: https://balajianthology.com/ >> Sign up for my online course and community about building your Personal Leverage: https://www.ejorgenson.com/leverage >> Invest in early-stage companies alongside Eric and his partners at Rolling Fun: https://angel.co/v/back/rolling-fun >> Join the free weekly email list at ejorgenson.com/newsletter >> Text the podcast to a friend >> Or at least give the podcast a positive review to help us reach new listeners! Important Quotes from the podcast on Business and Entrepreneurship There is no skill called “business.” Avoid business magazines and business classes. - Naval Ravikant You have to work up to the point where you can own equity in a business. You could own equity as a small shareholder where you bought stock. You could also own it as an owner where you started the company. Ownership is really important. Everybody who really makes money at some point owns a piece of a product, a business, or some IP. That can be through stock options if you work at a tech company. That’s a fine way to start.","meta_description":"Topics: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:02:40) - Being the “tech for middle America” translator (00:06:00) - Who are your heroes? (00:13:40) - Zack’s unique approa…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4769,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/smart-friends-2136135/episodes/102-the-next-renaissance-ai-reality-vs-hype-and-a-movement-of-hope-with-zack-kass/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/smart-friends-2136135/102-the-next-renaissance-ai-reality-vs-hype-and-a-movement-of-hope-with-zack-kass.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}