{"podcast":{"title":"Slate News","slug":"slate-news-494234","podcast_index_feed_id":494234,"rss_url":"https://feeds.acast.com/public/shows/696fee067668cfdea3a2870a","website_url":null,"image_url":"https://assets.pippa.io/shows/696fee067668cfdea3a2870a/cover-1ac7369a-6073-451d-b9a6-5326c942d419.jpg","author":"Slate Podcasts","episode_count":4897,"summary":"After the Trump administration launched a massive Immigrations and Customs Enforcement operation in Minnesota, protesters gathered to defend immigrant neighbors. Renee Nicole Good, a mother of a six year old, showed up with her wife and dog to film altercations between officers and community members. What happened next changed everything. Guest: Jon Collins, senior reporter on the Minnesota Public Radio News race, class and communities team. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Ethan Oberman, Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme and Rob Gunther. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","last_synced_at":"2026-08-02T06:20:34.669540+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/slate-news-494234"},"episode":{"title":"Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - By The People | Two Steps Forward, One Step Back","slug":"amicus-with-dahlia-lithwick-law-justice-and-the-courts-by-the-people-two-steps-forward-one-step-back","published_at":"2026-08-01T07:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/slate-news-494234/amicus-with-dahlia-lithwick-law-justice-and-the-courts-by-the-people-two-steps-forward-one-step-back","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/slate-news-494234","url":"https://shows.acast.com/amicus-with-dahlia-lithwick-law-justice-and-the-courts/episodes/6a6d0c4961ae402f614aaf60","audio_url":"https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/695ea2381c1db1c5bdf7c59b/a/slatenews-podcasts/e/6a6d0c4961ae402f614aaf60/media.mp3","summary":"Long before the Supreme Court handed down the landmark Obergefell ruling on equal marriage in 2015, activists were canvassing door-to-door, courting any lawmaker who would listen, and losing at the local level—a lot. Their scrappy determination helped convince family members, neighbors and eventually the rest of the country that the Constitution's guarantees of liberty and equality applied to same-sex couples.  In Episode 3 of By the People , equal marriage campaign architect Marc Solomon joins Dahlia Lithwick and Mark Joseph Stern to trace the movement’s \"quixotic\" beginnings in 2001. As this series continues to explore how ordinary Americans—not just nine justices—can interpret and enforce the Constitution, the campaign for equal marriage offers examples and tools that dedicated citizens can use to make constitutional meaning. The episode also confronts an uncomfortable question: If popular pressure can produce a ruling you love, like Obergefell , it can produce one you might not, like the court’s decision to enshrine an individual right to bear arms in 2008’s D.C. v. Heller . Dahlia and Mark discuss what happens when popular constitutionalism is retrofitted as originalism, and why no constitutional win, no matter how  popular, is ever truly permanent. By the People is Slate’s end-of-term project exploring how ordinary Americans have shaped the meaning of the Constitution outside the Supreme Court. You can read the full package of articles accompanying this series at slate.com/bythepeople The justices publish their opinions a few dozen times a year. Dahlia and Mark share theirs every week. Slate Plus gets you all of it: Amicus ad-free with a weekly bonus segment, and no paywalls anywhere on Slate. Join now. Visit slate.com/amicusplus to get access wherever…","meta_description":"Long before the Supreme Court handed down the landmark Obergefell ruling on equal marriage in 2015, activists were canvassing door-to-door, courting any l…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2755,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/slate-news-494234/episodes/amicus-with-dahlia-lithwick-law-justice-and-the-courts-by-the-people-two-steps-forward-one-step-back/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/slate-news-494234/amicus-with-dahlia-lithwick-law-justice-and-the-courts-by-the-people-two-steps-forward-one-step-back.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}