{"podcast":{"title":"Second Nature","slug":"second-nature-6886500","podcast_index_feed_id":6886500,"rss_url":"https://feeds.transistor.fm/second-nature","website_url":"https://www.thecommons.earth/second-nature-podcast","image_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/ZwQMapL_6LtxnDbIizXXjLI1X9rQWwTapDhWRsNmNpQ/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:1400/h:1400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS8wM2Yx/NmJhNWMyYTk2ODZl/Yjg0ZDNiN2ViNTg5/ZDU0NC5wbmc.jpg","author":"Commons","episode_count":63,"summary":"How can we live sustainably in an unsustainable world? Second Nature is a podcast by Commons exploring how our sustainable choices impact our lives and the planet. Every week hear how listeners are taking public transit, composting food waste, eating more plant-based meals and practicing deconsumption to create the kind of world they want to live in. We'll calculate the carbon impact of collective action and get expert answers to your burning climate questions. Everyone’s sustainable life is unique. Tell us about yours. thecommons.earth/podcast 🌎 Join a community of tens of thousands of people using the Commons app to track their emissions and get rewarded for sustainable living: https://www.thecommons.earth/get-the-app-second-nature Follow us on Instagram to get behind-the-scenes footage and more stories from Commons' climate community: https://instagram.com/secondnatureearth","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/second-nature-6886500"},"episode":{"title":"Can We Learn to Love Plant-Based Cheese?","slug":"can-we-learn-to-love-plant-based-cheese","published_at":"2026-01-21T11:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/second-nature-6886500/can-we-learn-to-love-plant-based-cheese","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/second-nature-6886500","url":"http://www.thecommons.earth/episode/5-can-we-learn-to-love-plant-based-cheese","audio_url":"https://media.transistor.fm/b4975940/c22a405c.mp3","summary":"[This episode originally aired October 16, 2024] Plant-based cheese is better than ever, but can we expand our expectations of cheese to ease our reliance on Big Dairy? Cheese is delicious. Even aspiring vegans find cheese hard to quit. But making dairy cheese is not only rough on the planet — the dairy cows’ lives aren’t great either. In this episode, we’re getting the full picture of the impact of dairy cheese, including the United States’ decades-long surplus cycle with the cheese industry and how it’s connected to Pizza Hut’s Summer of Cheese. We’re chatting with famed vegan chef and cheese icon, Miyoko Schinner about how far plant-based cheese has come and her favorite plant-based cheese bases. We’re learning practical tips to learn to love plant-based cheese, and having our very own cheese taste test. 🌎 For photos of our contributors and further reading, check the full show notes . 📞 We'd love to hear from you! Submit to the show. 📱 To join the Commons community, download the app . 📷 Follow Second Nature on Instagram . Episode Credits Listener contributions: Amea Wadsworth, Diana Holguin, Drew Crabtree, Kenzie Rattray, Melissa Athina, Miriam Jornet Editing and engineer: Evan Goodchild‍ Hosting and production: Katelan Cunningham (01:41) - Our community loves cheese (03:28) - Big Dairy, cheese caves, adn America’s decades-long milk obligation (07:35) - We’re drinking less milk than we used to, but we’re eating more cheese. Let’s talk about it. (10:54) - If one person can teach us to learn plant-based cheese, it’s famed chef, Miyoko Schinner (25:37) - How does cheese production impact the planet? (33:50) - Is it all or nothing?","meta_description":"[This episode originally aired October 16, 2024] Plant-based cheese is better than ever, but can we expand our expectations of cheese to ease our reliance…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2142,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/second-nature-6886500/episodes/can-we-learn-to-love-plant-based-cheese/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/second-nature-6886500/can-we-learn-to-love-plant-based-cheese.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}