{"podcast":{"title":"Second in Command: The Chief Behind the Chief with Cameron Herold","slug":"second-in-command-the-chief-behind-the-chief-with-cameron-herold-493106","podcast_index_feed_id":493106,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/secondincommand/","website_url":"https://cooalliance.com/podcasts/","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/ca7f7c1a-986f-48fe-8251-c4ae46627a09/Album-Art-Updated-Headshot-and-Logo.jpg","author":"Second in Command with Cameron Herold","episode_count":592,"summary":"Welcome to the “Second in Command” Podcast hosted by Cameron Herold, brought to you by the COO Alliance, where top-level COOs share their insights, tactics, and strategies that made them the Chief Behind the Chief. Cameron Herold founded the COO Alliance with one simple goal in mind: to provide COOs with the same professional development and growth opportunities CEOs have enjoyed for many years. COO Alliance is the world's leading network for the Second in Command. Cameron Herold is a top business consultant, best-selling author, and speaker. He’s the mastermind behind hundreds of companies’ exponential growth and he’s touched thousands of businesses indirectly through his work.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-07T16:21:49.200106+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/second-in-command-the-chief-behind-the-chief-with-cameron-herold-493106"},"episode":{"title":"Ep. 572 -  FAN FAVORITE | Sean Kim (HighLevel CPO, Former Kajabi President, Ex-Amazon, TikTok): Conquer Imposter Syndrome and Lead Powerfully","slug":"ep-572-fan-favorite-sean-kim-highlevel-cpo-former-kajabi-president-ex-amazon-tiktok-conquer-imposter-syndrome-and-lead-powerfully","published_at":"2026-04-21T07:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/second-in-command-the-chief-behind-the-chief-with-cameron-herold-493106/ep-572-fan-favorite-sean-kim-highlevel-cpo-former-kajabi-president-ex-amazon-tiktok-conquer-imposter-syndrome-and-lead-powerfully","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/second-in-command-the-chief-behind-the-chief-with-cameron-herold-493106","url":"https://cooalliance.com/podcasts/","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/4c8401fa-6dd6-4fb1-aba5-21c609b8dcac.mp3","summary":"What if the key to scaling your business wasn’t more people, but ruthless focus combined with relentless speed? Cameron Herold teams up with Sean Kim, the former President and Chief Product Officer at Kajabi (ex-Amazon, ex-TikTok) and the current Chief Product Officer at HighLevel , to crack open the playbook that turns chaos into proven, compounding wins. Inside this conversation: why leaders who say “no” more often grow faster, how to make data the backbone of every decision, and the real story behind powering a $1.7B creator platform without burning out your team or chasing shiny objects. Listen now to dodge the trap of feature bloat, hiring sprees, and slow, clunky execution. These are unfiltered insights and backed-up frameworks from the inside that you simply won’t get anywhere else, unapologetically blunt, deeply actionable, and designed for COOs and founders ready to scale, not just survive. Timestamped Highlights 00:23 – Why Sean Kim said “hell no” to TikTok… at first. The surprising conversation that changed everything 01:10 – “Discovery” is the real unlock… how it built TikTok’s domination and sparked Sean Kim’s obsession 08:18 – What happens when you leave Amazon’s scale for pure startup chaos… scrappy desks, no process, and surviving the LA office 09:24 – The secret power of the “doc writing” culture… how writing, not slides, became TikTok and Amazon’s unfair advantage 12:24 – Ruthless speed… fail fast, double down faster, and outmaneuver every competitor. This is how TikTok really operates 14:45 – Why Kajabi never bloats its teams… and how knowing exactly when to hire is a massive competitive edge 17:13 – The impact calculator… predicting revenue, retention, and customer wins before a single feature ships 25:40 – How to crush “feature creep” and avoid tur…","meta_description":"What if the key to scaling your business wasn’t more people, but ruthless focus combined with relentless speed? 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