{"podcast":{"title":"Scrum Master Toolbox Podcast: Agile storytelling from the trenches","slug":"scrum-master-toolbox-podcast-agile-storytelling-from-the-trenches-445588","podcast_index_feed_id":445588,"rss_url":"https://scrummastertoolbox.libsyn.com/rss","website_url":"http://www.scrum-master-toolbox.org/","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/e/2/5/e/e25edab2a57e22f8/Scrummaster_toolbox_podcast_logo_v1.png","author":"Vasco Duarte","episode_count":200,"summary":"Every week day, Certified Scrum Master, Agile Coach and business consultant Vasco Duarte interviews Scrum Masters and Agile Coaches from all over the world to get you actionable advice, new tips and tricks, improve your craft as a Scrum Master with daily doses of inspiring conversations with Scrum Masters from the all over the world. Stay tuned for BONUS episodes when we interview Agile gurus and other thought leaders in the business space to bring you the Agile Business perspective you need to succeed as a Scrum Master. Some of the topics we discuss include: Agile Business, Agile Strategy, Retrospectives, Team motivation, Sprint Planning, Daily Scrum, Sprint Review, Backlog Refinement, Scaling Scrum, Lean Startup, Test Driven Development (TDD), Behavior Driven Development (BDD), Paper Prototyping, QA in Scrum, the role of agile managers, servant leadership, agile coaching, and more!","last_synced_at":"2026-07-27T20:18:41.285145+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/scrum-master-toolbox-podcast-agile-storytelling-from-the-trenches-445588"},"episode":{"title":"The Too-Technical PO and the One Who Was Willing to Experiment | Alf Dobbert-Baums","slug":"the-too-technical-po-and-the-one-who-was-willing-to-experiment-alf-dobbert-baums","published_at":"2026-07-24T10:05:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/scrum-master-toolbox-podcast-agile-storytelling-from-the-trenches-445588/the-too-technical-po-and-the-one-who-was-willing-to-experiment-alf-dobbert-baums","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/scrum-master-toolbox-podcast-agile-storytelling-from-the-trenches-445588","url":"https://scrummastertoolbox.libsyn.com/the-too-technical-po-and-the-one-who-was-willing-to-experiment-alf-dobbert-baums","audio_url":"https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/scrummastertoolbox/20260724_Alf_Dobbert-Baums_F.mp3?dest-id=246429","summary":"Alf Dobbert-Baums: The Too-Technical PO and the One Who Was Willing to Experiment In this episode, we refer to Shift: From Product to People and the value of keeping the PO–developer conversation at the goal level. The Great Product Owner: The PO Who Was Willing to Drop the Spec and Trust the Developers Read the full Show Notes and search through the world's largest audio library on Agile and Scrum directly on the Scrum Master Toolbox Podcast website: http://bit.ly/SMTP_ShowNotes . \"Let's ditch the technical part, and let's see what happens.\" - Alf Dobbert-Baums The Great PO, in Alf's experience, is willing to experiment with letting go. She stopped writing detailed technical specifications and started writing plain user stories. Then — and this is the harder move — she stopped throwing them over the fence and walked into the developers' space to have the conversation. Alf had coached her toward it, and he watched the trust compound. Because she trusted the developers on the how , she had less work to do (the developers were closer to the system anyway) and the developers had room to make real decisions. The conversation stayed where it belonged: on the goal. Alf names the pattern this great PO embodied — open to experiments, willing to say \"let's see what happens,\" and quietly resisting the seductive pull of getting technical because it feels safer. The Scrum Master's job is partly to make that letting-go feel safe enough to try. Self-reflection Question: Where is your PO still writing the \"how\" — and what would it take for them to trust the developers enough to write only the \"why\" and the \"what\"? 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