{"podcast":{"title":"Scott & Mark Learn To...","slug":"scott-mark-learn-to-7043872","podcast_index_feed_id":7043872,"rss_url":"https://feeds.acast.com/public/shows/66ff347463073ba71bb59705","website_url":"https://shows.acast.com/scott-and-mark-learn-to","image_url":"https://assets.pippa.io/shows/66ff347463073ba71bb59705/1729058264020-b3bb9f2f-7b5d-4177-80f4-e771d2151f6d.jpeg","author":"Microsoft","episode_count":45,"summary":"Join tech industry veterans Scott Hanselman and Mark Russinovich as they dive into the challenges and innovations of today’s fast-paced world. Whether you’re an experienced developer or simply curious about technology, each episode offers a fresh perspective on emerging trends, familiar topics, and insights that go beyond the strictly technical. From the latest in AI to effective ways to influence without authority, Scott and Mark set out to 'learn' something new in every episode, and they’re bringing you along for the ride. Join Scott and Mark for engaging discussions, expert advice, and a shared journey of learning and discovery. There's always something new to learn! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-30T06:20:05.601363+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/scott-mark-learn-to-7043872"},"episode":{"title":"Scott & Mark Learn To... Are Apps Dead?","slug":"scott-mark-learn-to-are-apps-dead","published_at":"2026-02-04T16:15:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/scott-mark-learn-to-7043872/scott-mark-learn-to-are-apps-dead","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/scott-mark-learn-to-7043872","url":"https://shows.acast.com/scott-and-mark-learn-to/episodes/scott-mark-learn-to-are-apps-dead","audio_url":"https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/66ff347463073ba71bb59705/e/698249b2a4fd9ee5134b17f1/media.mp3","summary":"In this episode,  Scott Hanselman  and  Mark Russinovich  dive into a wide-ranging conversation about the future of software, debating whether apps are dead in an era of AI agents, chat interfaces, and automation. They explore the resurgence of text-based and terminal user interfaces, the limits of using large language models as stand-ins for deterministic workflows, and why reliability, security, and repeatability still demand traditional applications and SaaS platforms. Along the way, they unpack common misconceptions about AI replacing apps, argue for better UX and APIs instead of throwing AI at broken systems, and emphasize that AI is best used for reasoning and ambiguity, not as a replacement for well-designed software.     Takeaways:      AI tools don’t eliminate the need for well-built apps  Chat and terminal interfaces expand, not replace, software  Dynamic interfaces blur boundaries, but durable apps still anchor workflows    Who are they?       View Scott Hanselman on LinkedIn    View Mark Russinovich on LinkedIn       Watch Scott and Mark Learn on  YouTube            Listen to other episodes at  scottandmarklearn.to              Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at  microsoft.com/podcasts     Produced by Hangar Studios Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","meta_description":"In this episode, Scott Hanselman and Mark Russinovich dive into a wide-ranging conversation about the future of software, debating…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":802,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/scott-mark-learn-to-7043872/episodes/scott-mark-learn-to-are-apps-dead/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/scott-mark-learn-to-7043872/scott-mark-learn-to-are-apps-dead.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}