{"podcast":{"title":"Science History Podcast","slug":"science-history-podcast-766905","podcast_index_feed_id":766905,"rss_url":"https://sciencehistory.libsyn.com/rss","website_url":"http://sciencehistory.libsyn.com/website","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/d/e/e/9/dee9ef7f4ebfa0fc/IconPNG.png","author":"Frank A. von Hippel","episode_count":100,"summary":"Monthly interviews on important moments in the history of science.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-12T18:18:13.159532+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/science-history-podcast-766905"},"episode":{"title":"Episode 85. SWOPSI: Joel Primack & Robert Jaffe","slug":"episode-85-swopsi-joel-primack-robert-jaffe","published_at":"2024-12-12T00:17:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/science-history-podcast-766905/episode-85-swopsi-joel-primack-robert-jaffe","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/science-history-podcast-766905","url":"https://sciencehistory.libsyn.com/episode-85-swopsi-joel-primack-robert-jaffe","audio_url":"https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/sciencehistory/SHP_Episode_85.mp3?dest-id=618721","summary":"Societal problems big and small typically have a scientific element, often in a central way, yet most scientists are not directly involved in policy. My guests sought to change that in 1969 when they created the Stanford Workshops on Social and Political Issues, or SWOPSI. SWOPSI was founded by three students, two of whom are with us today: Joel Primack and Robert Jaffe. The third student was Joyce Kobayashi. Also with us today is my uncle Frank, who worked on some of the early SWOPSI initiatives. In this episode, I ask Joel, Bob and Frank: How did they hack Stanford's rules for course credit to create workshops run by graduate students? What were the goals of SWOPSI? How effective were the workshops in tackling local vs. national or international problems? How did SWOPSI help to create programs for scientists to advise Congress on technical issues? Why did SWOPSI perish as an institution at Stanford? How has US military-sponsored research evolved since the Second World War? And is SWOPSI a good model for young scientists today who want to solve societal problems?","meta_description":"Societal problems big and small typically have a scientific element, often in a central way, yet most scientists are not directly involved in policy. My g…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":6229,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/science-history-podcast-766905/episodes/episode-85-swopsi-joel-primack-robert-jaffe/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/science-history-podcast-766905/episode-85-swopsi-joel-primack-robert-jaffe.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}