{"podcast":{"title":"Scaling Europe","slug":"scaling-europe-7780754","podcast_index_feed_id":7780754,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/108a8a74c/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/scaling-europe","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/44302379/44302379-1756114015030-846dc0246eba9.jpg","author":"Sebastian Johnson","episode_count":223,"summary":"Every week Seb Johnson sits down with 5 of Europe's best builders and investors to talk about what's going on in European Tech. Prior guests include the founders of Lovable, Cleo, Voi an Zilch, as well as top VCs from 20VC, Index, Balderton and Creandum.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-27T22:17:10.818712+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/scaling-europe-7780754"},"episode":{"title":"Nad Chishtie, Founding Designer, Head of Design at Lovable: Turning non-technical people into builders","slug":"nad-chishtie-founding-designer-head-of-design-at-lovable-turning-non-technical-people-into-builders","published_at":"2026-06-10T10:57:24+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/scaling-europe-7780754/nad-chishtie-founding-designer-head-of-design-at-lovable-turning-non-technical-people-into-builders","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/scaling-europe-7780754","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/scaling-europe/episodes/Nad-Chishtie--Founding-Designer--Head-of-Design-at-Lovable-Turning-non-technical-people-into-builders-e3kjetl","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/108a8a74c/podcast/play/121272693/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-10%2F425865796-44100-2-32ce5bb3e5bbe.mp3","summary":"More people than ever before can now build software, as AI removes many of the technical barriers that previously stood in the way. Lovable is helping lead that shift, with two-thirds of its builders coming from outside the tech industry. Nad Chishtie is Founding Designer and Head of Design at Lovable. He believes the next generation of software will be built by far more people than ever before, with AI helping turn ideas into products while giving both generalists and specialists new ways to create and operate. The Scaling Europe show is presented by Deel - check them out here: https://get.deel.com/ruynb7o4lfjk Sponsors: Mishcon: https://www.mishcon.com/pop-ups/scaling-europe Chargebee: https://www.chargebee.com/events/beelieve/london/2026 SurrealDB: https://surrealdb.com/ Airwallex: https://www.airwallex.com/uk?utm_source=other&utm_medium=partner_referral&utm_campaign=v01_emea_multi_ib_dg_prtmk_mofu_scalingeurope Timestamps: 0:00 - Introduction 0:22 - Why Lovable is expanding its presence in London 1:21 - Building a London hub alongside Stockholm 3:19 - Scaling from startup to 50 million projects 5:02 - Why empowerment sits at the centre of Lovable 6:22 - How AI is changing who gets to build software 7:23 - The simplest way to think about design 10:15 - Why AI could benefit both generalists and specialists 11:44 - Why Lovable focused on the 99% who are not developers 13:21 - Building products for both beginners and experts 14:14 - Nad’s proudest moments building Lovable 15:04 - Building Lovable’s new creative engine","meta_description":"More people than ever before can now build software, as AI removes many of the technical barriers that previously stood in the way. Lovable is helping lea…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1010,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/scaling-europe-7780754/episodes/nad-chishtie-founding-designer-head-of-design-at-lovable-turning-non-technical-people-into-builders/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/scaling-europe-7780754/nad-chishtie-founding-designer-head-of-design-at-lovable-turning-non-technical-people-into-builders.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}