{"podcast":{"title":"Scaling DevTools","slug":"scaling-devtools","podcast_index_feed_id":5370747,"rss_url":"https://feeds.transistor.fm/scaling-devtools","website_url":"http://scalingdevtools.com","image_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/HkfKelaid_fFruHof3T1113FnoaMA6qHS5kMN568xTo/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:1400/h:1400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9zaG93/LzI5MTkzLzE2NDk3/Nzk2NDAtYXJ0d29y/ay5qcGc.jpg","author":"Scaling DevTools","episode_count":188,"summary":"We investigate what it takes to grow developer tools and AI DevTools. Topics include developer marketing, DevRel, developer advocacy and developer experience. Featuring founders and key people from the likes of Vercel, ElevenLabs and OpenAI. Scaling DevTools is sponsored by WorkOS.","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/scaling-devtools"},"episode":{"title":"Christopher Burns - creator of c15t: the developer-first cookie banner","slug":"christopher-burns-creator-of-c15t-the-developer-first-cookie-banner","published_at":"2026-01-23T18:42:48+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/scaling-devtools/christopher-burns-creator-of-c15t-the-developer-first-cookie-banner","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/scaling-devtools","url":"https://podcast.scalingdevtools.com/episodes/christopher-burns-creator-of-c15t-the-developer-first-cookie-banner","audio_url":"https://media.transistor.fm/03e4dac9/60e3dcac.mp3","summary":"Christopher Burns discusses the strategy behind building developer-first privacy infrastructure and the challenges of monetizing open-source tools. He explains how c15t uses a 'Trojan horse' approach to solve the technical and legal complexities of global privacy compliance.","meta_description":"Learn how c15t is revolutionizing cookie banners through open-source developer experience, performance optimization, and global privacy compliance.","key_points":["Main idea: Use open-source infrastructure as a wedge to enter much larger legal and observability markets","Practical takeaway: Solving a developer's personal frustration (like bad cookie banners) is the best way to find product-market fit","Failure mode: Avoid the 'bottoms-up' trap where developers love a tool but no one is willing to pay for it","Technical insight: Performance issues in modern web apps often stem from unmanaged marketing scripts rather than the core framework","Strategic insight: Providing legal indemnification and observability is more valuable to enterprises than just providing the raw code"],"chapters":[{"start_ms":60000,"title":"The Art of Web Design and AI","summary":"A discussion on the intersection of AI agents, dashboard design, and the evolving aesthetic trends in web development."},{"start_ms":330000,"title":"Finding Product-Market Fit","summary":"How to identify market opportunities by looking at existing product gaps and aligning them with user needs."},{"start_ms":610000,"title":"The Strategy of Open Source","summary":"Exploring the balance between offering free value through open source and building a sustainable, paid business model."},{"start_ms":1160000,"title":"Startup Culture: London vs. SF","summary":"A debate on the merits of building a startup in London's unique ecosystem versus the established hub of San Francisco."},{"start_ms":1995000,"title":"Developer Experience and Performance","summary":"Why c15t prioritizes developer experience and how managing marketing scripts can significantly improve website performance."},{"start_ms":2840000,"title":"The Complexity of Global Privacy","summary":"Navigating the fragmented landscape of global privacy laws, from GDPR to CCPA, and the importance of automated compliance."}],"topics":["Developer Tools","Open Source Strategy","Privacy Compliance","GDPR","Web Performance","SaaS Monetization","Startup Ecosystems","Software Engineering"],"duration_seconds":3687,"processing_state":"processed","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/scaling-devtools/episodes/christopher-burns-creator-of-c15t-the-developer-first-cookie-banner/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/scaling-devtools/christopher-burns-creator-of-c15t-the-developer-first-cookie-banner.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}