{"podcast":{"title":"Say More","slug":"say-more-6418113","podcast_index_feed_id":6418113,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/TPG4149271018","website_url":"https://art19.com/shows/say-more","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/bae4de04-10e4-11f0-bd10-c32d7595fd60/image/6266b3c40a6d3b295936c156494aca4f.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Jim Dao","episode_count":170,"summary":"Big ideas and big debates, explained through intimate conversations with the compelling personalities who shape them. AI and biotech. Higher education and health care. Climate and sustainability. Politics and the media. Culture and culture wars. Hosted by Boston Globe columnist Shirley Leung.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-30T16:18:37.021410+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/say-more-6418113"},"episode":{"title":"Isaac Fitzgerald and Johnny Appleseed are Massachusetts Dirtbags.","slug":"isaac-fitzgerald-and-johnny-appleseed-are-massachusetts-dirtbags","published_at":"2026-05-21T07:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/say-more-6418113/isaac-fitzgerald-and-johnny-appleseed-are-massachusetts-dirtbags","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/say-more-6418113","url":"https://pdst.fm/e/mgln.ai/e/51/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG4302366367.mp3","audio_url":"https://pdst.fm/e/mgln.ai/e/51/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG4302366367.mp3","summary":"American legend Johnny Appleseed was from here. He hailed from North Central Massachusetts, just a couple miles down the road from Isaac Fitzgerald, a contemporary writer whose first memoir “Dirtbag, Massachusetts” told the story of his misspent youth in the teenage pregnancy capital of the state. This week on Say More, Fitzgerald joins Anna Kusmer to discuss his new book, “American Rambler” which follows the footsteps of Appleseed from New England to Indiana, in search of nature, camaraderie, and some truths about America. Email us at saymore@globe.com. To read Isaac's piece in the Boston Globe, click here: The best rest stop in America is in Lancaster, Mass.","meta_description":"American legend Johnny Appleseed was from here. He hailed from North Central Massachusetts, just a couple miles down the road from Isaac Fitzgerald, a con…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1887,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/say-more-6418113/episodes/isaac-fitzgerald-and-johnny-appleseed-are-massachusetts-dirtbags/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/say-more-6418113/isaac-fitzgerald-and-johnny-appleseed-are-massachusetts-dirtbags.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}