{"podcast":{"title":"Say More","slug":"say-more-6418113","podcast_index_feed_id":6418113,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/TPG4149271018","website_url":"https://art19.com/shows/say-more","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/bae4de04-10e4-11f0-bd10-c32d7595fd60/image/6266b3c40a6d3b295936c156494aca4f.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Jim Dao","episode_count":170,"summary":"Big ideas and big debates, explained through intimate conversations with the compelling personalities who shape them. AI and biotech. Higher education and health care. Climate and sustainability. Politics and the media. Culture and culture wars. Hosted by Boston Globe columnist Shirley Leung.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-30T16:18:37.021410+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/say-more-6418113"},"episode":{"title":"Deep Sea Adventurer Edie Widder says, “We’re all Explorers”","slug":"deep-sea-adventurer-edie-widder-says-we-re-all-explorers","published_at":"2026-02-26T08:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/say-more-6418113/deep-sea-adventurer-edie-widder-says-we-re-all-explorers","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/say-more-6418113","url":"https://pdst.fm/e/mgln.ai/e/51/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG8711103560.mp3?updated=1772052440","audio_url":"https://pdst.fm/e/mgln.ai/e/51/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG8711103560.mp3?updated=1772052440","summary":"Deep sea explorer Edie Widder will never forget her first dive into the deep ocean. The second she turned off the lights on her submersible, she was met with a light show, “like the Fourth of July.” She couldn’t believe her eyes as blue sparks, swirls, and flashes filled her vision. The lesson was one she would bring through years of her career: the deep ocean is not a barren wasteland; it’s a vibrant world teeming with life and light. This week on Say More, Widder talks to co-host Anna Kusmer about the inner-explorer within each of us, and the ways curiosity can trump fear. Email us at saymore@globe.com.","meta_description":"Deep sea explorer Edie Widder will never forget her first dive into the deep ocean. The second she turned off the lights on her submersible, she was met w…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1580,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/say-more-6418113/episodes/deep-sea-adventurer-edie-widder-says-we-re-all-explorers/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/say-more-6418113/deep-sea-adventurer-edie-widder-says-we-re-all-explorers.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}