{"podcast":{"title":"Say More","slug":"say-more-6418113","podcast_index_feed_id":6418113,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/TPG4149271018","website_url":"https://art19.com/shows/say-more","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/bae4de04-10e4-11f0-bd10-c32d7595fd60/image/6266b3c40a6d3b295936c156494aca4f.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Jim Dao","episode_count":170,"summary":"Big ideas and big debates, explained through intimate conversations with the compelling personalities who shape them. AI and biotech. Higher education and health care. Climate and sustainability. Politics and the media. Culture and culture wars. Hosted by Boston Globe columnist Shirley Leung.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-30T16:18:37.021410+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/say-more-6418113"},"episode":{"title":"Before Lindsay Clancy, there was Latarsha Sanders. Yvonne Abraham Shares her Story.","slug":"before-lindsay-clancy-there-was-latarsha-sanders-yvonne-abraham-shares-her-story","published_at":"2026-01-29T08:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/say-more-6418113/before-lindsay-clancy-there-was-latarsha-sanders-yvonne-abraham-shares-her-story","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/say-more-6418113","url":"https://pdst.fm/e/mgln.ai/e/51/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG6313940310.mp3?updated=1769631982","audio_url":"https://pdst.fm/e/mgln.ai/e/51/tracking.swap.fm/track/tcQd6Q6C0RUUlOHq1Ytj/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/TPG6313940310.mp3?updated=1769631982","summary":"What does justice mean when a mentally ill person takes a life? Before Lindsay Clancy killed her three children in Duxbury, there was another case. In 2018, a mother in Brockton, Latarsha Sanders, killed her two young sons while in the midst of a psychotic episode. But the tragedy didn’t end with their deaths. A dubious interrogation and a jury trial portraying Sanders as “evil” resulted in a first degree murder verdict. Boston Globe columnist Yvonne Abraham revisits the trial with an overflowing reporter’s notebook. She shares her findings with Say More’s Shirley Leung. Email us at saymore@globe.com. To read Yvonne’s 7-part series from the Boston Globe, start here.","meta_description":"What does justice mean when a mentally ill person takes a life? Before Lindsay Clancy killed her three children in Duxbury, there was another case. In 201…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1661,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/say-more-6418113/episodes/before-lindsay-clancy-there-was-latarsha-sanders-yvonne-abraham-shares-her-story/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/say-more-6418113/before-lindsay-clancy-there-was-latarsha-sanders-yvonne-abraham-shares-her-story.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}