{"podcast":{"title":"Safe Doesn't Scale","slug":"safe-doesn-t-scale-7693846","podcast_index_feed_id":7693846,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/limelight/","website_url":"https://www.limelighthq.com/","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/acfbba0c-a85e-4aa3-9cd2-d33855c85dcd/SDS-Artwork.jpg","author":"David Walsh","episode_count":20,"summary":"\"What's the ROI?\" Those three words kill more creative marketing ideas than bad execution ever will. Not here. Safe Doesn't Scale is a weekly podcast for marketing and growth leaders. We’ll be interviewing Heads of Marketing, Unicorn Founders, and Revenue Leaders at B2B companies to prove that the riskiest marketing campaigns drive the biggest returns. While brands are burning $500K on LinkedIn ads that are generating zero demos, there’s someone out there who closed a $2M deal they sourced from a meme. Host David Walsh, Founder of Limelight, breaks down real examples from brands spending less and converting more by leaning into creator-led growth, unconventional distribution, and campaigns that make traditional marketers panic. You’ll learn: How growth leaders sell “unsafe” ideas to the C-suite How to attribute sales pipeline to content, creators, and social signals Why the campaigns that feel uncomfortable often drive the most revenue No e-book downloads. No buzzwords. This show is for marketers with a chip on their shoulder who are tired of playing it safe. We celebrate the campaigns that make legal sweat and sales teams crush quota. Because marketers who don't take risks won't…","last_synced_at":"2026-07-09T16:20:37.514205+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/safe-doesn-t-scale-7693846"},"episode":{"title":"Drop The Learn More Button (with Casey Hill from DoWhatWorks) | Ep. 7","slug":"drop-the-learn-more-button-with-casey-hill-from-dowhatworks-ep-7","published_at":"2026-03-27T07:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/safe-doesn-t-scale-7693846/drop-the-learn-more-button-with-casey-hill-from-dowhatworks-ep-7","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/safe-doesn-t-scale-7693846","url":"https://www.limelighthq.com/","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/9c15809c-391f-400c-a141-f259af195662.mp3","summary":"Traditional bottom-of-funnel paid ads are becoming unsustainably expensive, and standard SEO strategies are losing their impact. Marketing budgets are tightening, yet the pressure to deliver growth has never been higher. Brands are forced to find new ways to grab attention, but many are still wasting millions on inefficient channels rather than building their own distribution engines. ㅤ Host David Walsh sits down with Casey Hill , Chief Marketing Officer at DoWhatWorks , to dissect what is actually working in B2B marketing right now. They discuss the critical shift toward optimizing websites for both human intent and machine indexing, moving beyond generic calls to action. Listeners will walk away with actionable frameworks for creating proprietary distribution channels and leveraging public data to make smarter growth decisions. ㅤ Casey brings a wealth of knowledge from analyzing tens of thousands of real-world website experiments. He shares a personal misstep from his early days on LinkedIn, where posting highly valuable but dry test data completely flopped. By shifting his focus to novelty and replicability, Casey built an organic content engine that now drives forty percent of his company's closed business. ㅤ Guest Bio Casey Hill is a growth veteran and the Chief Marketing Officer at DoWhatWorks , a technology startup fundamentally changing how brands approach conversion rate optimization. He has over a decade of experience scaling software companies and providing institutional guidance to top global firms on pricing, market analysis, and inbound marketing. Throughout his career, Casey has garnered millions of views across social platforms by pioneering creative growth levers. He brings a deeply analytical yet human approach to B2B marketing, commanding an audience…","meta_description":"Traditional bottom-of-funnel paid ads are becoming unsustainably expensive, and standard SEO strategies are losing their impact. Marketing budgets are tig…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1962,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/safe-doesn-t-scale-7693846/episodes/drop-the-learn-more-button-with-casey-hill-from-dowhatworks-ep-7/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/safe-doesn-t-scale-7693846/drop-the-learn-more-button-with-casey-hill-from-dowhatworks-ep-7.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}