{"podcast":{"title":"SaaS Metrics School","slug":"saas-metrics-school-6467825","podcast_index_feed_id":6467825,"rss_url":"https://app.kajabi.com/podcasts/2147570179/feed","website_url":"https://www.thesaasacademy.com/podcasts/saas-metrics-school","image_url":"https://kajabi-storefronts-production.kajabi-cdn.com/kajabi-storefronts-production/file-uploads/site/70333/podcasts/36206f-febd-0e0-8167-3d08ead5b4_SAAS-METRICS-SCHOOL_ARTWORK.jpg","author":"Ben Murray","episode_count":381,"summary":"Ben Murray brings you actionable SaaS metrics lessons that he has learned through years of being in the SaaS CFO trenches. Whether you are new to SaaS or a SaaS veteran, learn the latest SaaS and AI metrics, finance, and accounting tactics that drive financial transparency and improved decision-making. Ben’s SaaS metrics blog consistently rates a 70+ NPS, and his templates have been downloaded over 100,000 times. There is always something to learn about SaaS and AI metrics.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-22T22:17:24.587138+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/saas-metrics-school-6467825"},"episode":{"title":"The Two SaaStr Annual Slides Every SaaS Operator Needs to See Today","slug":"the-two-saastr-annual-slides-every-saas-operator-needs-to-see-today","published_at":"2026-05-20T03:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/saas-metrics-school-6467825/the-two-saastr-annual-slides-every-saas-operator-needs-to-see-today","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/saas-metrics-school-6467825","url":"https://www.thesaasacademy.com/podcasts/saas-metrics-school/episodes/2149207390","audio_url":"https://app.kajabi.com/podcasts/medias/2149207390.mp3","summary":"Are you a legacy SaaS company quietly hoping for a recovery that isn't coming? In episode #372, Ben Murray breaks down two slides from Jason Lemkin's State of SaaS keynote at SaaStr Annual that every SaaS operator and CFO needs to confront. The four categories Lemkin laid out will tell you exactly where your company sits in the AI transition, and whether your ARR growth is real or borrowed time. If you're building, leading, or financing a SaaS business right now, this is the reality check that should reshape how you frame your strategy for the next board meeting. Understand the four SaaS+AI categories Jason Lemkin used to map every software company, and which one quietly signals the end of the road Learn why AI driving expansion revenue versus net new customer acquisition matters more than top-line ARR growth right now See which public SaaS companies are pulling off the AI-powered rocket ship growth and what they share Hear the \"tired versus wired\" narratives that separate operators stuck in 2024 talking points from those building what's next Get a clear lens for whether your AI features are real revenue drivers or just a story you're telling investors Tune in to find out where your company actually sits before the next board meeting forces the question. Resources Mentioned SaaStr Annual / Jason Lemkin:  https://saastrannual.com/ Ben's new AI metrics course:  https://www.thesaasacademy.com/ai-finance-metrics-saas","meta_description":"Are you a legacy SaaS company quietly hoping for a recovery that isn't coming? In episode #372, Ben Murray breaks down two slides from Jason Lemkin's Stat…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":196,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/saas-metrics-school-6467825/episodes/the-two-saastr-annual-slides-every-saas-operator-needs-to-see-today/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/saas-metrics-school-6467825/the-two-saastr-annual-slides-every-saas-operator-needs-to-see-today.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}