{"podcast":{"title":"Refactoring Podcast","slug":"refactoring-podcast-7057405","podcast_index_feed_id":7057405,"rss_url":"https://www.spreaker.com/show/6091136/episodes/feed","website_url":"https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/refactoring-podcast--6091136","image_url":"https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/a743ff07dbb9224853d8e28bd80bec3e.jpg","author":"Luca Rossi","episode_count":68,"summary":"Weekly interviews with world-class engineering leaders about writing great software and working well with humans.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-10T16:17:38.339864+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/refactoring-podcast-7057405"},"episode":{"title":"What Comes After the IDE 🖥 — with Amelia Wattenberger","slug":"what-comes-after-the-ide-with-amelia-wattenberger","published_at":"2026-03-20T08:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/refactoring-podcast-7057405/what-comes-after-the-ide-with-amelia-wattenberger","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/refactoring-podcast-7057405","url":"https://www.spreaker.com/episode/what-comes-after-the-ide-with-amelia-wattenberger--70775551","audio_url":"https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/70775551/420379415_44100_2_c833c77d00569.mp3","summary":"Today's guest is Amelia Wattenberger, former principal research engineer at GitHub and now partner at Sutter Hill Ventures. But she's also a product lead at Augment Code, where she developed Intent, a developer workspace for orchestrating AI coding agents and delivering complex work. So this is a fascinating chat into the future and the present of software development with someone who has clearly been at the very frontier of this for many years. (00:00) Preview(01:11) Introduction(03:26) What is \"Intent\"?(09:56) Splitting agents for best performance(12:32) Spec and subtasks(17:46) Decision and generation(22:15) Features, opinion and abstractions(25:37) The note system(27:41) Attitude is reflected in approach(35:21) Engineers in the new era of crafting(37:14) Managing skills applied to an agent environment(39:46) Orchestrating agents(45:50) The future of deep specialists —You can also find this at: • 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9d...• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... —For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club","meta_description":"Today's guest is Amelia Wattenberger, former principal research engineer at GitHub and now partner at Sutter Hill Ventures. But she's also a product lead…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3098,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/refactoring-podcast-7057405/episodes/what-comes-after-the-ide-with-amelia-wattenberger/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/refactoring-podcast-7057405/what-comes-after-the-ide-with-amelia-wattenberger.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}