{"podcast":{"title":"Refactoring Podcast","slug":"refactoring-podcast-6754878","podcast_index_feed_id":6754878,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/ee484c90/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://refactoring.fm","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/39877156/39877156-1701361251890-4052e839c628f.jpg","author":"Luca Rossi","episode_count":68,"summary":"Weekly interviews with world-class engineering leaders about writing great software and working well with humans.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-10T16:17:08.822802+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/refactoring-podcast-6754878"},"episode":{"title":"How Todoist is Built ✅ — with Gonçalo Silva","slug":"how-todoist-is-built-with-gon-alo-silva","published_at":"2026-01-23T08:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/refactoring-podcast-6754878/how-todoist-is-built-with-gon-alo-silva","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/refactoring-podcast-6754878","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lucaronin/episodes/How-Todoist-is-Built---with-Gonalo-Silva-e3e1vd8","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/ee484c90/podcast/play/114408296/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-0-22%2F416645806-44100-2-923f98cb02f0d.mp3","summary":"Today's guest is Gonçalo Silva , CTO of Doist, the company behind Todoist and Twist. This interview is an incredible behind the scenes about one of the most peculiar companies in tech. Because Doist is bootstrapped, profitable, has no office and has about 100 employees that are spread across about 40 countries. Yet, or maybe for this reason, they created one of the world's most beloved productivity tools, used by more than 25 million users and they're up against billion-dollar companies with hundreds of millions of funding. So how do they pull this off? Let's find out. (00:00) Preview (01:15) Introduction (04:26) What does Doist looks like? (06:48) The perfect number of people (09:44) Remote and async-first (15:59) Asynchronous threats (18:34) Todoist engineering teams (21:06) Continuity or chaos (28:18) A team for every platform (29:21) Product management (31:37) Product development process (34:03) Merging top-down strategies and bottom-up feedbacks (38:16) AI in product engineering (46:34) Team level AI practices — You can also find this at: • 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm • 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw • 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305 — For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club","meta_description":"Today's guest is Gonçalo Silva , CTO of Doist, the company behind Todoist and Twist. This interview is an incredible behind the scenes about one of the mo…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3148,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/refactoring-podcast-6754878/episodes/how-todoist-is-built-with-gon-alo-silva/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/refactoring-podcast-6754878/how-todoist-is-built-with-gon-alo-silva.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}