{"podcast":{"title":"Refactoring Podcast","slug":"refactoring-podcast-6754878","podcast_index_feed_id":6754878,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/ee484c90/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://refactoring.fm","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/39877156/39877156-1701361251890-4052e839c628f.jpg","author":"Luca Rossi","episode_count":68,"summary":"Weekly interviews with world-class engineering leaders about writing great software and working well with humans.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-10T16:17:08.822802+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/refactoring-podcast-6754878"},"episode":{"title":"Career Sabbaticals and Self Discovery 🔍 — with Thiago Ghisi","slug":"career-sabbaticals-and-self-discovery-with-thiago-ghisi","published_at":"2026-01-09T08:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/refactoring-podcast-6754878/career-sabbaticals-and-self-discovery-with-thiago-ghisi","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/refactoring-podcast-6754878","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lucaronin/episodes/Career-Sabbaticals-and-Self-Discovery---with-Thiago-Ghisi-e3dbm98","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/ee484c90/podcast/play/113678056/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-0-8%2F415713410-44100-2-a097418bf8786.mp3","summary":"Today's guest is Thiago Ghisi!Thiago is former director of engineering at Nubank and with a long and successful tech career in companies like ThoughtWorks, Apple and more. But right now, he's on a sabbatical and he's been for more than six months.So get ready for an incredible chat where we talked about your identity as an engineering leader, psychology, Claude Code and more.(00:00) Preview(01:01) Introduction(03:25) Quitting the job(10:32) Planning during a sabbatical(14:03) Detaching from your work identity(20:31) Measuring progress(26:03) Finding yourself: Claude Code and second brain(33:34) The biggest revelations(45:22) Thiago's next chapter—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club","meta_description":"Today's guest is Thiago Ghisi!Thiago is former director of engineering at Nubank and with a long and successful tech career in companies like ThoughtWorks…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3379,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/refactoring-podcast-6754878/episodes/career-sabbaticals-and-self-discovery-with-thiago-ghisi/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/refactoring-podcast-6754878/career-sabbaticals-and-self-discovery-with-thiago-ghisi.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}