{"podcast":{"title":"Redefining Energy","slug":"redefining-energy-947886","podcast_index_feed_id":947886,"rss_url":"https://www.spreaker.com/show/3170008/episodes/feed","website_url":"http://www.redefining-energy.com","image_url":"https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/08cdac5b7cf4ab26939053ce8b2adeab.jpg","author":"Laurent Segalen and Gerard Reid","episode_count":196,"summary":"Two investment bankers weekly explore how tech, finance, markets and regulations are radically redefining the world of energy: Renewable Energy, Electric Cars, Hydrogen, Battery Storage, Digitisation... Your co-hosts: from Berlin, Gerard Reid and from London, Laurent Segalen. Our LinkedIn page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/redefining-energy/ X handle: @Redef_Energy","last_synced_at":"2026-07-13T06:19:12.241965+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/redefining-energy-947886"},"episode":{"title":"211. The last Mile revolution: turning Distribution Networks into Flexibility Powerhouses - Jan26","slug":"211-the-last-mile-revolution-turning-distribution-networks-into-flexibility-powerhouses-jan26","published_at":"2026-01-12T01:30:07+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/redefining-energy-947886/211-the-last-mile-revolution-turning-distribution-networks-into-flexibility-powerhouses-jan26","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/redefining-energy-947886","url":"http://www.redefining-energy.com","audio_url":"https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/69290260/211_jojo.mp3","summary":"Laurent and Gerard sit down with Jo-Jo Hubbard , CEO of Electron , to explore why the centre of gravity in the energy transition is shifting decisively toward the distribution grid. Jo-Jo explains why the “last mile” is becoming the true engine of system flexibility, how demand at the edge must become a core resource, and why DSOs aren’t confused about flexibility at all — they simply respond to the incentives regulators design. Flexibility, she argues, isn’t replacing grid reinforcement but making it smarter, helping utilities target and sequence investments far more efficiently at a time when distribution upgrade costs are rising quickly. We discuss how to escape the sector’s obsession with endless pilots, and why real scale only arrives when year-round, rules-based products give suppliers and aggregators the confidence to automate and invest. The conversation then turns to the economics of location — from REMA to zonal pricing — and why congestion at the distribution level is where flexibility competes most effectively with copper. Jo-Jo also lays out what it takes to get millions of households engaged without overwhelming them, making the experience effortless, automated and consistent across retailers. She breaks down the hardest parts of the DER orchestration stack, noting that the real challenge isn’t cloud infrastructure but standardising how device capabilities and network constraints are described across a patchwork of utilities. Looking ahead to 2030, Jo-Jo argues that no single asset class “wins”: value depends on time, place and service, with EVs likely providing tens of gigawatts of potential flexibility but orchestration remaining the true hero. We cover the future of interoperability and open data — not via global standards, but through adapters and tra…","meta_description":"Laurent and Gerard sit down with Jo-Jo Hubbard , CEO of Electron , to explore why the centre of gravity in the energy transition is shifting decisively to…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1845,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/redefining-energy-947886/episodes/211-the-last-mile-revolution-turning-distribution-networks-into-flexibility-powerhouses-jan26/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/redefining-energy-947886/211-the-last-mile-revolution-turning-distribution-networks-into-flexibility-powerhouses-jan26.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}