{"podcast":{"title":"Rad N Bad Podcast","slug":"rad-n-bad-podcast-7370394","podcast_index_feed_id":7370394,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/104b97260/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sean-carrero","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/43642296/43642296-1746882839445-4ff0361e241b.jpg","author":"Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero from Hickory Learning Group","episode_count":57,"summary":"The Rad N' Bad Podcast by Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero isn’t your average ABA podcast, it’s a full-blown wake-up call. These two BCBAs from Hickory Learning Group are smashing through outdated norms and calling out the BS in the field. No fluff, no sugar-coating, just raw, unfiltered truth about what ABA should be. They challenge you to think, question the “why,” and push past complacency. If you're ready to disrupt the status quo and make this field better for clients and practitioners alike, buckle up, Rad N' Bad is here to raise hell and raise standards.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-25T00:18:17.496161+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/rad-n-bad-podcast-7370394"},"episode":{"title":"Episode 42: Who The Hell Is That Again, with Lou Sandler: The Illusion of Progress: Flashcards, Seismograph Graphs, and Real Industry Reform","slug":"episode-42-who-the-hell-is-that-again-with-lou-sandler-the-illusion-of-progress-flashcards-seismograph-graphs-and-real-industry-reform","published_at":"2026-07-06T13:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/rad-n-bad-podcast-7370394/episode-42-who-the-hell-is-that-again-with-lou-sandler-the-illusion-of-progress-flashcards-seismograph-graphs-and-real-industry-reform","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/rad-n-bad-podcast-7370394","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sean-carrero/episodes/Episode-42-Who-The-Hell-Is-That-Again--with-Lou-Sandler-The-Illusion-of-Progress-Flashcards--Seismograph-Graphs--and-Real-Industry-Reform-e3la94o","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/104b97260/podcast/play/122020440/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-26%2F426867534-44100-2-d04904c2bf011.m4a","summary":"The Titanic has officially struck the iceberg, and the music is starting to stop behind closed doors. Following the explosive New York Times investigation exposing fraud, seven-minute nap billings, and hyper-inflated center-based hours across the autism therapy sector, the industry is entering its ultimate "prove it" era. But how did a pure, data-driven behavioral science transform into an industrialized, multi-billion-dollar corporate machine virtually overnight? In this massive, unfiltered, two-and-a-half-hour episode of Rad N Bad , Sean and Mike strip away the corporate marketing language, the toxic positivity, and the social media binaries to perform a brutal behavioral analysis of the contingencies that broke the field. Joining the conversation is an industry icon, Dr. Lou Sandler , who brings 45 years of clinical history from the trenches of Kennedy Krieger to pull back the curtain on what went wrong. Together, the guys dissect the concept of "Medical School Envy"—the dangerous structural delusion that behavior analysis can function as a standalone, isolated medical discipline rather than an integrated, instructional resource. Dr. Lou drops a nuclear take on why Discrete Trial Training (DTT) needs to die, exposes the total lack of clinical oversight in the mass-produced BCBA pipeline, and calls out the absolute corporate absurdity of offering financial bonuses to supervisors for hitting billing percentage targets. This isn't an attack on clinicians, and it's not a blind defense of a broken system. It’s a raw, battle-tested manifesto detailing how we pivot away from a service maintenance dependency model and go "back to the future" by prioritizing homes over centers, treating the family structure as the ultimate clinical environment,…","meta_description":"The Titanic has officially struck the iceberg, and the music is starting to stop behind closed doors. Following the explosive New York Times investigation…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":8771,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/rad-n-bad-podcast-7370394/episodes/episode-42-who-the-hell-is-that-again-with-lou-sandler-the-illusion-of-progress-flashcards-seismograph-graphs-and-real-industry-reform/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/rad-n-bad-podcast-7370394/episode-42-who-the-hell-is-that-again-with-lou-sandler-the-illusion-of-progress-flashcards-seismograph-graphs-and-real-industry-reform.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}