{"podcast":{"title":"Rad N Bad Podcast","slug":"rad-n-bad-podcast-7370394","podcast_index_feed_id":7370394,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/104b97260/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sean-carrero","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/43642296/43642296-1746882839445-4ff0361e241b.jpg","author":"Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero from Hickory Learning Group","episode_count":57,"summary":"The Rad N' Bad Podcast by Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero isn’t your average ABA podcast, it’s a full-blown wake-up call. These two BCBAs from Hickory Learning Group are smashing through outdated norms and calling out the BS in the field. No fluff, no sugar-coating, just raw, unfiltered truth about what ABA should be. They challenge you to think, question the “why,” and push past complacency. If you're ready to disrupt the status quo and make this field better for clients and practitioners alike, buckle up, Rad N' Bad is here to raise hell and raise standards.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-25T00:18:17.496161+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/rad-n-bad-podcast-7370394"},"episode":{"title":"Episode 41: DTT is Not a Permanent Residence: Mapping the Real Middle Ground of Structure vs. Autonomy","slug":"episode-41-dtt-is-not-a-permanent-residence-mapping-the-real-middle-ground-of-structure-vs-autonomy","published_at":"2026-06-26T13:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/rad-n-bad-podcast-7370394/episode-41-dtt-is-not-a-permanent-residence-mapping-the-real-middle-ground-of-structure-vs-autonomy","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/rad-n-bad-podcast-7370394","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sean-carrero/episodes/Episode-41-DTT-is-Not-a-Permanent-Residence-Mapping-the-Real-Middle-Ground-of-Structure-vs--Autonomy-e3jm7cp","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/104b97260/podcast/play/120314713/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-21%2F424588892-44100-2-334ab28f51cba.m4a","summary":"Are we using clinical structure to build real-world independence, or are we just using it as an excuse for corporate and intellectual laziness? This week, Sean and Mike step right into the crossfire of the industry’s loudest, most polarizing argument to map out the definitive middle ground on Discrete Trial Training (DTT). Depending on who you ask on social media, DTT is either the only way to successfully teach complex skills or it’s the absolute poster child for everything wrong with modern, compliance-driven therapy. Both sides are completely right about the execution failures, but they are completely wrong about the science. Sean and Mike strip away the corporate marketing crap, toxic positivity, and traditionalist dogma to expose the reality of engineering behavior that actually leaves the clinical room. They break down: The Illusion of the Table: Why high acquisition numbers on a tablet can be a clinical lie if the behavior doesn't survive when the theatrical props, cards, and contrived rewards go away. The Workflow Over Science Trap: Tearing down why clinics stay stubbornly codependent on tabletop drills—not because the science demands it, but because it’s cheap to train, easy to score, and simple to audit for insurance funders. The True Middle Ground: How to ruthlessly apply intense structural repetition to build prerequisite skills in isolation, while simultaneously programming for prompt fading and Natural Environment Teaching (NET) from day one. The Generalization Mandate: Why if you cannot describe exactly how a target response transfers across new settings, novel materials, and organic contingencies, you are fundamentally not done designing the clinical program. Stop hiding behind rigid procedural brands or superficial, positive-only marketing labels to av…","meta_description":"Are we using clinical structure to build real-world independence, or are we just using it as an excuse for corporate and intellectual laziness? This week,…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2674,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/rad-n-bad-podcast-7370394/episodes/episode-41-dtt-is-not-a-permanent-residence-mapping-the-real-middle-ground-of-structure-vs-autonomy/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/rad-n-bad-podcast-7370394/episode-41-dtt-is-not-a-permanent-residence-mapping-the-real-middle-ground-of-structure-vs-autonomy.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}