{"podcast":{"title":"Rad N Bad Podcast","slug":"rad-n-bad-podcast-7370394","podcast_index_feed_id":7370394,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/104b97260/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sean-carrero","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/43642296/43642296-1746882839445-4ff0361e241b.jpg","author":"Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero from Hickory Learning Group","episode_count":57,"summary":"The Rad N' Bad Podcast by Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero isn’t your average ABA podcast, it’s a full-blown wake-up call. These two BCBAs from Hickory Learning Group are smashing through outdated norms and calling out the BS in the field. No fluff, no sugar-coating, just raw, unfiltered truth about what ABA should be. They challenge you to think, question the “why,” and push past complacency. If you're ready to disrupt the status quo and make this field better for clients and practitioners alike, buckle up, Rad N' Bad is here to raise hell and raise standards.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-25T00:18:17.496161+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/rad-n-bad-podcast-7370394"},"episode":{"title":"Episode 39: No Man's Land-The Forbidden E-Word: Why You Can’t Escape Extinction","slug":"episode-39-no-man-s-land-the-forbidden-e-word-why-you-can-t-escape-extinction","published_at":"2026-06-08T13:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/rad-n-bad-podcast-7370394/episode-39-no-man-s-land-the-forbidden-e-word-why-you-can-t-escape-extinction","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/rad-n-bad-podcast-7370394","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sean-carrero/episodes/Episode-39-No-Mans-Land-The-Forbidden-E-Word-Why-You-Cant-Escape-Extinction-e3hrkaj","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/104b97260/podcast/play/118394643/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-3-13%2F421987004-44100-2-dd768d2f3306a.m4a","summary":"In this episode of the No Man’s Land series, Sean and Mike tackle the 'forbidden E-word' of ABA: Extinction. While cancel culture and critics often paint extinction as cold or outdated, the guys pull the curtain back to show that it’s not a trend—it’s a law of behavior. Whether you call it 'planned ignoring' or 'compassionate support,' if you change a reinforcement contingency, you’re implementing extinction. Sean and Mike dive into the messy reality of extinction bursts, the 'vending machine' analogy of human behavior, and the controversial rise of 'Kind Extinction.' They argue that the science hasn't changed; our clinical skill just finally caught up. Stop avoiding the uncomfortable and start understanding the mechanics of how learning actually happens when the 'house rules' change.","meta_description":"In this episode of the No Man’s Land series, Sean and Mike tackle the 'forbidden E-word' of ABA: Extinction. While cancel culture and critics often paint…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2317,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/rad-n-bad-podcast-7370394/episodes/episode-39-no-man-s-land-the-forbidden-e-word-why-you-can-t-escape-extinction/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/rad-n-bad-podcast-7370394/episode-39-no-man-s-land-the-forbidden-e-word-why-you-can-t-escape-extinction.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}