{"podcast":{"title":"Rad N Bad Podcast","slug":"rad-n-bad-podcast-7370394","podcast_index_feed_id":7370394,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/104b97260/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sean-carrero","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/43642296/43642296-1746882839445-4ff0361e241b.jpg","author":"Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero from Hickory Learning Group","episode_count":57,"summary":"The Rad N' Bad Podcast by Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero isn’t your average ABA podcast, it’s a full-blown wake-up call. These two BCBAs from Hickory Learning Group are smashing through outdated norms and calling out the BS in the field. No fluff, no sugar-coating, just raw, unfiltered truth about what ABA should be. They challenge you to think, question the “why,” and push past complacency. If you're ready to disrupt the status quo and make this field better for clients and practitioners alike, buckle up, Rad N' Bad is here to raise hell and raise standards.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-25T00:18:17.496161+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/rad-n-bad-podcast-7370394"},"episode":{"title":"Episode 22: The Evolution of ABA: Traditional vs. New, Social Validity, and the Cultural Debate","slug":"episode-22-the-evolution-of-aba-traditional-vs-new-social-validity-and-the-cultural-debate","published_at":"2025-12-10T14:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/rad-n-bad-podcast-7370394/episode-22-the-evolution-of-aba-traditional-vs-new-social-validity-and-the-cultural-debate","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/rad-n-bad-podcast-7370394","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sean-carrero/episodes/Episode-22-The-Evolution-of-ABA-Traditional-vs--New--Social-Validity--and-the-Cultural-Debate-e3brt90","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/104b97260/podcast/play/112112352/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-11-4%2F413714445-44100-2-cd3a12038eac5.m4a","summary":"In this impromptu episode recorded live from the Underground Conference, hosts Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero tackle the controversial and nuanced debate surrounding "Traditional" versus "New" Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA). They explore whether the shift in terminology represents a genuine change in practice or just a rebranding effort. The conversation delves deep into the history of ABA, acknowledging the valid trauma and criticism from the neurodivergent community regarding compliance-based and normalization-focused methods. Sean and Mike dissect the core argument that while the science of behavior analysis—its principles of reinforcement and environmental interaction—remains neutral, the application has evolved significantly based on changing ethical values. They discuss the critical roles of assent, autonomy, and social validity, debating who ultimately defines "acceptable" behavior: the individual or the culture they live in. This episode challenges practitioners to move beyond defensiveness and embrace a compassionate, values-driven approach that prioritizes the dignity and self-determination of the individual while navigating the complex realities of societal norms. Key Topics Discussed: Traditional vs. New ABA: Defining the differences and understanding the historical context of compliance-based models vs. modern assent-based care. The Neutrality of Science: How behavioral principles remain constant while the ethical application shifts. Social Validity & Assent: A deep dive into the complexity of honoring a client's "no" while balancing long-term outcomes and safety. Cultural Context: The role of societal norms in defining acceptable behavior and the tension between individual autonomy and environmental consequence…","meta_description":"In this impromptu episode recorded live from the Underground Conference, hosts Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero tackle the controversial and nuanced debate…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2542,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/rad-n-bad-podcast-7370394/episodes/episode-22-the-evolution-of-aba-traditional-vs-new-social-validity-and-the-cultural-debate/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/rad-n-bad-podcast-7370394/episode-22-the-evolution-of-aba-traditional-vs-new-social-validity-and-the-cultural-debate.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}