{"podcast":{"title":"Qiological Podcast","slug":"qiological-podcast-915251","podcast_index_feed_id":915251,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/qiological-podcast/","website_url":"https://qiological.com","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/d3b857d9-dd84-4532-9b50-c24cd612a149/Podcast-Cover-3000x3000.jpg","author":"Michael Max","episode_count":533,"summary":"Acupuncture and East Asian medicine was not developed in a laboratory. It does not advance through double-blind controlled studies, nor does it respond well to petri dish experimentation. Our medicine did not come from the statistical regression of randomized cohorts, but from the observation and treatment of individuals in their particular environment. It grows out of an embodied sense of understanding how life moves, unfolds, develops and declines. Medicine comes from continuous, thoughtful practice of what we do in clinic, and how we approach that work. The practice of medicine is more — much more — than simply treating illness. It is more than acquiring skills and techniques. And it is more than memorizing the experiences of others. It takes a certain kind of eye, an inquiring mind and relentlessly inquisitive heart. Qiological is an opportunity to deepen our practice with conversations that go deep into acupuncture, herbal medicine, cultivation practices, and the practice of having a practice. It’s an opportunity to sit in the company of others with similar interests, but perhaps very different minds. Through these dialogues perhaps we can better understand our craft.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-28T14:20:24.918062+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/qiological-podcast-915251"},"episode":{"title":"467 History Series, Rebellious Empirical Scientists Pt. 2 • Bill Prensky & Gene Bruno","slug":"467-history-series-rebellious-empirical-scientists-pt-2-bill-prensky-gene-bruno","published_at":"2026-06-30T05:30:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/qiological-podcast-915251/467-history-series-rebellious-empirical-scientists-pt-2-bill-prensky-gene-bruno","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/qiological-podcast-915251","url":"https://qiological.com","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/5324bda0-e747-40fd-ad25-dcb4806e9d75.mp3","summary":"Part Two How does a profession begin? Not on paper. Not with licensing boards or schools. Often enough, it starts with a handful of curious people who become convinced there's another way to do things. Part determination, part serendipity, and perhaps a good measure of luck. Bill Prensky and Gene Bruno were there before acupuncture had a place in American healthcare. In the wake of the Vietnam War, student protests, and a generation questioning nearly everything, they walked away from academic research that no longer made sense to them. Their Tai Chi teacher, Marshall Ho, introduced them to Dr. Kim, who reluctantly agreed to teach a small group that in time became like family. What followed is equal parts history and improbable story: treating patients at the Crossroads of the World, translating across languages, creating lecture series just to afford tuition, traveling with their teacher, and helping establish the first legal and educational footholds for acupuncture. Listen in to this conversation on trading a graduate education for a study that didn’t have a syllabus, credentialing or degree, helped acupuncture to find its footing in America.","meta_description":"Part Two How does a profession begin? Not on paper. Not with licensing boards or schools. Often enough, it starts with a handful of curious people who bec…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3158,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/qiological-podcast-915251/episodes/467-history-series-rebellious-empirical-scientists-pt-2-bill-prensky-gene-bruno/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/qiological-podcast-915251/467-history-series-rebellious-empirical-scientists-pt-2-bill-prensky-gene-bruno.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}