{"podcast":{"title":"Public Defenseless","slug":"public-defenseless-4627959","podcast_index_feed_id":4627959,"rss_url":"https://publicdefenseless.libsyn.com/rss","website_url":"https://publicdefenseless.libsyn.com","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/c/1/9/a/c19a1d7aa80b1fdfe55e3c100dce7605/FINAL_PD_Show_Art_1.png","author":"Hunter Parnell","episode_count":503,"summary":"Anyone paying attention can tell you that our criminal legal system is perpetuating cruelty and harm, but the complexity of the legal world overwhelms most people simply trying to get through another day. Public Defenseless explores the rot in the justice system and what we can do about it. Join host, Hunter Parnell, as he interviews top defense attorneys and criminal justice stakeholders from across the country as they pull apart the convoluted web of our criminal justice system. Like so many of you, Hunter is not an attorney, simply tired of a news cycle and talking heads that offer no real solutions to the ever-growing list of problems we face. Hunter hopes that with this information, you will share his belief that ordinary people still can make a difference.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-25T22:17:22.371695+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/public-defenseless-4627959"},"episode":{"title":"479 | What Data Tells Us About the Public Defender Well Being Crisis Part 2 w/Jenny Andrews, Matthew Thiese, and Sara McCarthy","slug":"479-what-data-tells-us-about-the-public-defender-well-being-crisis-part-2-w-jenny-andrews-matthew-thiese-and-sara-mccarthy","published_at":"2026-05-21T10:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/public-defenseless-4627959/479-what-data-tells-us-about-the-public-defender-well-being-crisis-part-2-w-jenny-andrews-matthew-thiese-and-sara-mccarthy","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/public-defenseless-4627959","url":"https://publicdefenseless.libsyn.com/479-what-data-tells-us-about-the-public-defender-well-being-crisis-part-1-wjenny-andrews-and-jon-jachimowicz","audio_url":"https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/traffic.libsyn.com/secure/publicdefenseless/Final_Natl_Wellness_Study_Part_2_Audio.mp3?dest-id=3187490","summary":"Today, Hunter was joined once again by Jenny Andrews and for the first time Matthew Thiese and Sarah McCarthay. As was the case on Tuesday, this episode is a continued discussion about the National Public Defender Well-Being Study. This time, the focus is on the upcoming phase two that people can participate in starting June 1. Guest: Jenny Andrews, Director, Be Sustained Matthew These Ph.D., Professor, Utah University School of Medicine Sarah McCarthy, Chief Assistant Public Defender, Santa Clara, California Resource: Find Everything About the Study Here https://besustained.org/ Contact Matthew Here https://medicine.utah.edu/faculty/matthew-s-thiese Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****","meta_description":"Today, Hunter was joined once again by Jenny Andrews and for the first time Matthew Thiese and Sarah McCarthay. As was the case on Tuesday, this episode i…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3715,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/public-defenseless-4627959/episodes/479-what-data-tells-us-about-the-public-defender-well-being-crisis-part-2-w-jenny-andrews-matthew-thiese-and-sara-mccarthy/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/public-defenseless-4627959/479-what-data-tells-us-about-the-public-defender-well-being-crisis-part-2-w-jenny-andrews-matthew-thiese-and-sara-mccarthy.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}