{"podcast":{"title":"Public Defenseless","slug":"public-defenseless-4627959","podcast_index_feed_id":4627959,"rss_url":"https://publicdefenseless.libsyn.com/rss","website_url":"https://publicdefenseless.libsyn.com","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/c/1/9/a/c19a1d7aa80b1fdfe55e3c100dce7605/FINAL_PD_Show_Art_1.png","author":"Hunter Parnell","episode_count":503,"summary":"Anyone paying attention can tell you that our criminal legal system is perpetuating cruelty and harm, but the complexity of the legal world overwhelms most people simply trying to get through another day. Public Defenseless explores the rot in the justice system and what we can do about it. Join host, Hunter Parnell, as he interviews top defense attorneys and criminal justice stakeholders from across the country as they pull apart the convoluted web of our criminal justice system. Like so many of you, Hunter is not an attorney, simply tired of a news cycle and talking heads that offer no real solutions to the ever-growing list of problems we face. Hunter hopes that with this information, you will share his belief that ordinary people still can make a difference.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-25T22:17:22.371695+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/public-defenseless-4627959"},"episode":{"title":"478 | The Effect of Public Defender and Support Staff Caseloads on Incarceration Outcomes for Felony Defendants w/Aaron Gottlieb and Melissa Mahabir","slug":"478-the-effect-of-public-defender-and-support-staff-caseloads-on-incarceration-outcomes-for-felony-defendants-w-aaron-gottlieb-and-melissa-mahabir","published_at":"2026-05-20T10:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/public-defenseless-4627959/478-the-effect-of-public-defender-and-support-staff-caseloads-on-incarceration-outcomes-for-felony-defendants-w-aaron-gottlieb-and-melissa-mahabir","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/public-defenseless-4627959","url":"https://publicdefenseless.libsyn.com/478-the-effect-of-public-defender-and-support-staff-caseloads-on-incarceration-outcomes-for-felony-defendants-waaron-gottlieb-and-melissa-mahabir","audio_url":"https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/traffic.libsyn.com/secure/publicdefenseless/Aaron_G_and_Melissa_Final_Audio.mp3?dest-id=3187490","summary":"Today, Hunter was joined by Aaron Gottlieb and Melissa Mahabir to discuss how excessive workloads drive worse outcomes for the people public defenders work for. Guest: Aaron Gottlieb, Associate Professor, University of Chicago Crown Family School of Social Work, Policy and Practice Melissa Mahabir, Social Worker and Former Mitigation Specialist Resource: Read the Article Here https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/full/10.1086/712924 Contact Aaron Here https://crownschool.uchicago.edu/directory/aaron-gottlieb Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home *** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER ***","meta_description":"Today, Hunter was joined by Aaron Gottlieb and Melissa Mahabir to discuss how excessive workloads drive worse outcomes for the people public defenders wor…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3087,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/public-defenseless-4627959/episodes/478-the-effect-of-public-defender-and-support-staff-caseloads-on-incarceration-outcomes-for-felony-defendants-w-aaron-gottlieb-and-melissa-mahabir/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/public-defenseless-4627959/478-the-effect-of-public-defender-and-support-staff-caseloads-on-incarceration-outcomes-for-felony-defendants-w-aaron-gottlieb-and-melissa-mahabir.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}