{"podcast":{"title":"Proof to Product","slug":"proof-to-product-615543","podcast_index_feed_id":615543,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/proof-to-product/","website_url":"http://www.prooftoproduct.com","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/58c71df0-7c6d-4f17-af12-d54cf32a663f/tsbc-podcast-keyart-katie-rev-01.png","author":"Katie Hunt","episode_count":548,"summary":"Ranked in the top 1% of ALL podcasts, the Proof to Product podcast is your trusted resource for sustainable business growth - especially if you make and sell physical products! Join Katie Hunt, each week as she shares strategies & solutions to enhance your sales & marketing so that you're building a business that supports your best life. If you've ever asked yourself can I make money selling physical products? Am I ready to sell my products wholesale to stores like Target, Anthropologie, Nordstrom or Barnes & Noble? When should I consider hiring a sales team or sales reps? Can I really turn my passion into profits? Whether you're a just starting out on your business journey or you've been at it a while growing an empire, this show is for you. Proof to Product is like on-demand business school for product sellers spanning a wide range of industries. Whether you're in home decor, apparel, beauty, food & beverage, hand-made items, jewelry, consumer gifts or the stationery world, you'll gather new ideas each week to help you grow your profit, build your team and lead with integrity. Host Katie Hunt and her guests bring you actionable ways to expand your product line, manufacturing ove…","last_synced_at":"2026-07-28T20:20:43.474587+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/proof-to-product-615543"},"episode":{"title":"433 | How to Navigate the Seasonality of Retail with Angie Chua, bobo design studio","slug":"433-how-to-navigate-the-seasonality-of-retail-with-angie-chua-bobo-design-studio","published_at":"2026-02-24T18:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/proof-to-product-615543/433-how-to-navigate-the-seasonality-of-retail-with-angie-chua-bobo-design-studio","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/proof-to-product-615543","url":"http://www.prooftoproduct.com","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/5d50e1a3-6de4-40b9-9c9f-25692a7ad713.mp3","summary":"Hiring can feel like a huge big leap. It's expensive. It's vulnerable to let other people into your business. And if you've been doing everything yourself, it can also feel maybe unnecessary. But what if building a team isn't a risk? It's actually a smart move for stabilizing and scaling your business. That's what we're digging into today with Angie Chua of bobo design studio and bobo Palm Springs . You may remember Angie from episode 426 where we talked about what's happening with Amazon right now using AI to scrape websites. Today's conversation is more personal. We're talking about her evolution from the digital advertising world to building a travel-inspired stationery brand and a thriving brick-and-mortar shop in Palm Springs. Angie shares what it was really like growing her business, the missteps, the hiring decisions, the moments of doubt that we all kind of face, and also the shifts that helped her step into true leadership. We talk about what happens when you hire your first employee, what it takes to let go of control, the reality of outsourcing to agency, and what that looked like for Angie, including what worked and what didn't, and why having a solid bookkeeper isn't optional if you want to scale a product-based business sustainably. She also opened up about her commitment to supporting artists from marginalized communities, how she navigates the seasonality of retail in Palm Springs, and what it looks like to practice self-compassion while growing a business. This is a grounded, honest conversation about growth, not a highlight reel, but the real version. Today's episode is brought to you by Digital Lizard , a sponsor of our Paper Camp program, which kicks off this week. Digital Lizard is a full-service marketing and print partner offering digital and off…","meta_description":"Hiring can feel like a huge big leap. It's expensive. It's vulnerable to let other people into your business. And if you've been doing everything yourself…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1829,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/proof-to-product-615543/episodes/433-how-to-navigate-the-seasonality-of-retail-with-angie-chua-bobo-design-studio/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/proof-to-product-615543/433-how-to-navigate-the-seasonality-of-retail-with-angie-chua-bobo-design-studio.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}