{"podcast":{"title":"Product Pals","slug":"product-pals-7068925","podcast_index_feed_id":7068925,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/f6dae0ac/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://linktr.ee/productpalspodcast","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/41315395/41315395-1716842172947-f3f2aaf9b0124.jpg","author":"Charlotte Bian, Kiet Truong","episode_count":22,"summary":"Welcome to Product Pals. This is a space where product people come together to talk honestly about the work, the challenges, and everything in between. We share stories from our own journeys and from others in the product world. The moments that felt uncertain, the lessons that stuck, and the shifts that changed how we think and build. Product Pals is also a community. A place to feel supported, to learn from each other, and to remember that you are not navigating this alone. Whether you are experienced, just getting started, or somewhere in the middle, you are very welcome here. ☕️🍵🧋","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/product-pals-7068925"},"episode":{"title":"PM Spotlight: Cheryl Saw on Product Growth Levers That Matter — Beyond Just Pricing","slug":"pm-spotlight-cheryl-saw-on-product-growth-levers-that-matter-beyond-just-pricing","published_at":"2025-09-28T21:28:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/product-pals-7068925/pm-spotlight-cheryl-saw-on-product-growth-levers-that-matter-beyond-just-pricing","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/product-pals-7068925","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/productpals/episodes/PM-Spotlight-Cheryl-Saw-on-Product-Growth-Levers-That-Matter--Beyond-Just-Pricing-e38puuh","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/f6dae0ac/podcast/play/108902801/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-8-28%2F408261014-44100-2-9b82581cab70f.mp3","summary":"In this episode of the Product Pals Podcast, Charlotte and Kiet sit down with Cheryl Saw — Fractional Product Growth & GTM Strategist at Revvy, with over a decade of experience across SaaS (Adobe, Audible), FMCG (Kimberly-Clark), Health/Edu-Tech, and digital agencies. Cheryl’s journey into growth wasn’t planned - it found her. Over the years, she’s built a career solving hard problems in consumer SaaS, from pricing strategy to retention to building product growth teams across Asia Pacific. In this conversation, she shares candid reflections on her path, leadership, and what it means to create sustainable growth. 🔑 What you’ll hear: Why pricing isn’t the silver bullet for growth — and how to really test value The psychology behind retention and why “cheaper” doesn’t always mean “stickier” Lessons from growing products like Adobe Acrobat and Audible across APAC Building and leading distributed growth teams from scratch Why adaptability and curiosity fuel a lasting career in product and growth 💡 Cheryl also opens up about her personal journey — from starting in event management to mentoring women in tech and building CandidConvos , a community for meaningful conversations in tech.","meta_description":"In this episode of the Product Pals Podcast, Charlotte and Kiet sit down with Cheryl Saw — Fractional Product Growth & GTM Strategist at Revvy, with o…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":5668,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/product-pals-7068925/episodes/pm-spotlight-cheryl-saw-on-product-growth-levers-that-matter-beyond-just-pricing/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/product-pals-7068925/pm-spotlight-cheryl-saw-on-product-growth-levers-that-matter-beyond-just-pricing.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}