{"podcast":{"title":"PodBiz | Where's The Money In Podcasting?","slug":"podbiz-where-s-the-money-in-podcasting-7400830","podcast_index_feed_id":7400830,"rss_url":"https://feeds.acast.com/public/shows/68343e1669c98f151d8f0020","website_url":"https://shows.acast.com/podbiz","image_url":"https://assets.pippa.io/shows/cover/1748254201335-96fb7d9a-bcc9-4424-bec3-f8bfe7f58a81.jpeg","author":"Norma Jean Belenky & John Kiernan","episode_count":53,"summary":"Where's the money in podcasting? Hosted by Norma Jean Belenky and John Kiernan, PodBiz dives into the strategies, trends, and tools driving podcast monetization and industry growth. From ad revenue and branded content to audience development and production workflows, we spotlight the real business behind the mic. Each week, we speak with creators, executives, and innovators answering the one question on everyone’s mind: Where’s the money in podcasting? Whether you're monetizing your show, launching a network, or just obsessed with the space, PodBiz is your insider guide to podcasting’s biggest opportunities. Listen to new episodes every Monday- Let’s get down to PodBiz! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-13T22:19:18.076473+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/podbiz-where-s-the-money-in-podcasting-7400830"},"episode":{"title":"Where the Money Meets Marketing: Podcast Audience Development with Catrin Skaperdas","slug":"where-the-money-meets-marketing-podcast-audience-development-with-catrin-skaperdas","published_at":"2026-02-23T12:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/podbiz-where-s-the-money-in-podcasting-7400830/where-the-money-meets-marketing-podcast-audience-development-with-catrin-skaperdas","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/podbiz-where-s-the-money-in-podcasting-7400830","url":"https://shows.acast.com/podbiz-catrin-skaperdas","audio_url":"https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68343e1669c98f151d8f0020/e/697a30a90507f71624919e03/media.mp3","summary":"What if audience development doesn’t start at launch… but at concept? This week on PodBiz, we’re joined by Catrin Skaperdas, Marketing and Audience Development Director at The Podcast Guys, whose career spans Cumulus Media, independent consulting across European markets, and now building marketing infrastructure inside a growing UK agency. Catrin makes one thing clear: marketing is not an afterthought. It belongs in the room from day one. As she puts it: “Now I'm part of podcast development. I'm in the room at the beginning of the conversation and I'm working with these brands to just to figure out what the best concept is for them. What's going to get them to their goals.” And when it comes to monetization for independent creators, she’s equally direct: “The money can be found when you use your podcast as part of a brand ecosystem.” This is a grounded, practical conversation about audience growth, branded podcast strategy, European market nuance, and why downloads alone don’t define success. Here are some insightful moments within the episode: Why monetization isn’t “one giant pile of money” How indie creators can build revenue beyond ads Why brands must budget for marketing as seriously as production What podcast audits reveal about discoverability Why European podcast markets operate differently country to country The real meaning behind “the death of the download” Why consistency builds subconscious audience trust How audience development evolves from execution to leadership Episode Chapters (01:54) Where is the money in podcasting? (04:52) Paid promotion and podcast listener targeting (08:39) Why brands must fund marketing properly (14:36) Building and launching Italian For Sure (18:12) Why audience development starts in development (22:39) U.S. vs European podcas…","meta_description":"What if audience development doesn’t start at launch… but at concept? This week on PodBiz, we’re joined by Catrin Skaperdas, Marketing and Audience Develo…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2822,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/podbiz-where-s-the-money-in-podcasting-7400830/episodes/where-the-money-meets-marketing-podcast-audience-development-with-catrin-skaperdas/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/podbiz-where-s-the-money-in-podcasting-7400830/where-the-money-meets-marketing-podcast-audience-development-with-catrin-skaperdas.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}