{"podcast":{"title":"PodBiz | Where's The Money In Podcasting?","slug":"podbiz-where-s-the-money-in-podcasting-7400830","podcast_index_feed_id":7400830,"rss_url":"https://feeds.acast.com/public/shows/68343e1669c98f151d8f0020","website_url":"https://shows.acast.com/podbiz","image_url":"https://assets.pippa.io/shows/cover/1748254201335-96fb7d9a-bcc9-4424-bec3-f8bfe7f58a81.jpeg","author":"Norma Jean Belenky & John Kiernan","episode_count":53,"summary":"Where's the money in podcasting? Hosted by Norma Jean Belenky and John Kiernan, PodBiz dives into the strategies, trends, and tools driving podcast monetization and industry growth. From ad revenue and branded content to audience development and production workflows, we spotlight the real business behind the mic. Each week, we speak with creators, executives, and innovators answering the one question on everyone’s mind: Where’s the money in podcasting? Whether you're monetizing your show, launching a network, or just obsessed with the space, PodBiz is your insider guide to podcasting’s biggest opportunities. Listen to new episodes every Monday- Let’s get down to PodBiz! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-13T22:19:18.076473+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/podbiz-where-s-the-money-in-podcasting-7400830"},"episode":{"title":"Small Buckets of Money and Big Direct Deals with Matt Cundill","slug":"small-buckets-of-money-and-big-direct-deals-with-matt-cundill","published_at":"2026-02-16T12:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/podbiz-where-s-the-money-in-podcasting-7400830/small-buckets-of-money-and-big-direct-deals-with-matt-cundill","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/podbiz-where-s-the-money-in-podcasting-7400830","url":"https://shows.acast.com/podbiz-soundoff-matt-cundill","audio_url":"https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68343e1669c98f151d8f0020/e/6972fea0d284f5cd093928f4/media.mp3","summary":"Where is the money in podcasting when you’re not chasing a big network buy? This week on PodBiz, NJ sits down with Matt Cundill (AKA Captain Canada), founder of Sound Off Media, longtime radio and podcast strategist to talk about what monetization really looks like for independent podcasters. Matt breaks down what he calls “small buckets of money” and why the biggest revenue often comes from one or two direct advertiser relationships rather than large agency buys. He explains how newsletters, websites, and owned inventory often get overlooked, and why podcasters should think beyond just pre-roll and mid-roll ads. He also shares insights on Canadian podcast markets, exportability, and why comparison across borders can distort expectations. As Matt puts it: “The best money you're going to find is going to be the deals that you cut individually with an advertiser or a client or a partner.” The conversation moves into audience development, consumption data, and what makes a show sustainable long term. From three-year audience timelines to personality-driven growth, this episode is a practical look at podcasting as a business. In this episode, we cover: • Why “small buckets of money” add up • The one or two advertisers every show should focus on first • How to leverage newsletters and inventory beyond the audio feed • Why Canadian podcasts face different scaling realities • The three-year rule for building an audience • Consumption metrics and why 80 percent matters • Personality, hosting skills, and mic discipline • Taking breaks without killing momentum • Why video is a marketing tool more than a revenue engine Episode Chapters (01:55) Where’s the money in podcasting (04:15) The one or two advertisers that matter most (06:21) Grants, foundations, and brand fit (09:51) Fro…","meta_description":"Where is the money in podcasting when you’re not chasing a big network buy? This week on PodBiz, NJ sits down with Matt Cundill (AKA Captain Canada), foun…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2503,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/podbiz-where-s-the-money-in-podcasting-7400830/episodes/small-buckets-of-money-and-big-direct-deals-with-matt-cundill/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/podbiz-where-s-the-money-in-podcasting-7400830/small-buckets-of-money-and-big-direct-deals-with-matt-cundill.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}