{"podcast":{"title":"Pitchfork Economics with Nick Hanauer","slug":"pitchfork-economics-with-nick-hanauer-653707","podcast_index_feed_id":653707,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/PPY5667678674","website_url":"http://www.pitchforkeconomics.com","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/c5ce4202-f4f7-11e8-8f50-a71b647a9c02/image/Pitchfork_Branding_Final_2023.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Civic Ventures","episode_count":445,"summary":"We are living through a paradigm shift from trickle-down neoliberalism to middle-out economics — a new understanding of who gets what and why. Join zillionaire class-traitor Nick Hanauer and some of the world’s leading economic and political thinkers as they explore the latest thinking on how the economy actually works.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-28T20:20:54.030078+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/pitchfork-economics-with-nick-hanauer-653707"},"episode":{"title":"Myths That Built Trickle-Down Economics: Productivity Doesn’t Trickle Down (with Preston Mui)","slug":"myths-that-built-trickle-down-economics-productivity-doesn-t-trickle-down-with-preston-mui","published_at":"2026-07-21T14:47:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/pitchfork-economics-with-nick-hanauer-653707/myths-that-built-trickle-down-economics-productivity-doesn-t-trickle-down-with-preston-mui","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/pitchfork-economics-with-nick-hanauer-653707","url":"https://chrt.fm/track/28EG51/traffic.megaphone.fm/PCHEC5104689068.mp3","audio_url":"https://chrt.fm/track/28EG51/traffic.megaphone.fm/PCHEC5104689068.mp3","summary":"Some of the world’s richest executives are selling AI as the engine of a yet-to-be realized “historic” productivity boom — while warning that it will also eliminate millions of jobs. But if workers absorb the disruption while the gains flow upward, that isn’t shared prosperity. It’s trickle-down economics with better software. In the final installment of Myths That Built Trickle-Down Economics archive miniseries, we’re returning to Nick and Goldy’s conversation with economist Preston Mui about why productivity is a policy choice. Mui explains how full employment, sustained public investment, resilient supply chains, and affordable essentials create the conditions for workers and businesses to produce more value. Technology may help us build a more productive economy. Policy will determine who benefits from it. This episode originally aired April 2, 2024.  Preston Mui is a senior economist at Employ America specializing in macroeconomics, labor economics, productivity, and Federal Reserve policy. Social Media: @prestonmui.bsky.social @PrestonMui Further reading:  Post-ECI note: The Supply-side May Spoil Warsh's Productivity Story The Dream of the 90s is Slipping Away in 2025 Early Estimates of the Impact of AI Within BEA’s Industry Economic Accounts Our Mission In An Age Of Turbulence: Creating A New Economic Policy Toolkit Website: http://pitchforkeconomics.com Facebook: Pitchfork Economics Podcast Bluesky: @pitchforkeconomics.bsky.social Instagram: @pitchforkeconomics Threads: pitchforkeconomics TikTok: @pitchfork_econ YouTube: @pitchforkeconomics LinkedIn: Pitchfork Economics Twitter: @PitchforkEcon, @NickHanauer Substack: The Pitch","meta_description":"Some of the world’s richest executives are selling AI as the engine of a yet-to-be realized “historic” productivity boom — while warning that it will also…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2241,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/pitchfork-economics-with-nick-hanauer-653707/episodes/myths-that-built-trickle-down-economics-productivity-doesn-t-trickle-down-with-preston-mui/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/pitchfork-economics-with-nick-hanauer-653707/myths-that-built-trickle-down-economics-productivity-doesn-t-trickle-down-with-preston-mui.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}