{"podcast":{"title":"Pitchfork Economics with Nick Hanauer","slug":"pitchfork-economics-with-nick-hanauer-653707","podcast_index_feed_id":653707,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/PPY5667678674","website_url":"http://www.pitchforkeconomics.com","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/c5ce4202-f4f7-11e8-8f50-a71b647a9c02/image/Pitchfork_Branding_Final_2023.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Civic Ventures","episode_count":445,"summary":"We are living through a paradigm shift from trickle-down neoliberalism to middle-out economics — a new understanding of who gets what and why. Join zillionaire class-traitor Nick Hanauer and some of the world’s leading economic and political thinkers as they explore the latest thinking on how the economy actually works.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-28T20:20:54.030078+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/pitchfork-economics-with-nick-hanauer-653707"},"episode":{"title":"Myths That Built Trickle-Down Economics: Austerity Politics (with Clara Mattei)","slug":"myths-that-built-trickle-down-economics-austerity-politics-with-clara-mattei","published_at":"2026-07-14T17:06:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/pitchfork-economics-with-nick-hanauer-653707/myths-that-built-trickle-down-economics-austerity-politics-with-clara-mattei","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/pitchfork-economics-with-nick-hanauer-653707","url":"https://chrt.fm/track/28EG51/traffic.megaphone.fm/PCHEC5923071305.mp3","audio_url":"https://chrt.fm/track/28EG51/traffic.megaphone.fm/PCHEC5923071305.mp3","summary":"This week, we’re continuing our archive miniseries, Myths That Built Trickle-Down Economics, with the myth that austerity is responsible economic policy. We’re revisiting this conversation now because the austerity playbook is still very much alive. The Trump administration and DOGE have cut federal agencies, pushed out public servants, and treated public infrastructure like waste — even though those are the systems we need most during a crisis. And if the economy turns downward, politicians will almost certainly reach for the same old answer: slash public support, make working people pay the price, and call it responsibility. Nick and Goldy talk with professor and political economist Clara Mattei, author of The Capital Order: How Economists Invented Austerity and Paved the Way to Fascism, about how austerity became one of the most powerful myths of modern capitalism, how economists helped sell it as common sense, and why it has always been about more than budgets. Clara Mattei is a professor of economics at the University of Tulsa, Founding President of FREE: Forum for Real Economic Emancipation, and author of The Capital Order: How Economists Invented Austerity and Paved the Way to Fascism and Escape from Capitalism: An Intervention. This episode originally aired on December 12, 2023.  Social Media: @claraemattei Further reading:  The Capital Order: How Economists Invented Austerity and Paved the Way to Fascism U.S. Treasury: The U.S. Economic Recovery in International Context CBPP: Robust COVID Relief Bolstered Economy and Reduced Hardship for Millions GAO: Federal Agency Workforce Changes Website: http://pitchforkeconomics.com Facebook: Pitchfork Economics Podcast Bluesky: @pitchforkeconomics.bsky.social Instagram: @pitchforkeconomics Threads: pitchforkec…","meta_description":"This week, we’re continuing our archive miniseries, Myths That Built Trickle-Down Economics, with the myth that austerity is responsible economic policy.…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2931,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/pitchfork-economics-with-nick-hanauer-653707/episodes/myths-that-built-trickle-down-economics-austerity-politics-with-clara-mattei/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/pitchfork-economics-with-nick-hanauer-653707/myths-that-built-trickle-down-economics-austerity-politics-with-clara-mattei.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}