{"podcast":{"title":"Performance Intelligence","slug":"performance-intelligence-5318461","podcast_index_feed_id":5318461,"rss_url":"https://feeds.transistor.fm/performance-intelligence-with-andrew-may","website_url":"http://www.performanceintelligence.com/all-podcast-episodes/","image_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/zWZ4QhlDAhjmc907qGXIgc6iZwSy18eR5TcSLeNXR4w/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:1400/h:1400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS83N2Fh/MWFmM2U1OTAyMDRj/ZDg3MTVjZTdiODM1/ZTVkYS5wbmc.jpg","author":"Andrew May","episode_count":435,"summary":"The show that unlocks potential for everyday life. Mental Skills and Leadership Coach, Andrew May, talks to an all-star guest list of experts to unlock every edge of performance.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-16T08:22:16.542133+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/performance-intelligence-5318461"},"episode":{"title":"182 Friendship, Footy, and What's Next? | Wallabies James Slipper & Nic White","slug":"friendship-footy-and-what-s-next-wallabies-james-slipper-nic-white","published_at":"2026-05-27T19:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/performance-intelligence-5318461/friendship-footy-and-what-s-next-wallabies-james-slipper-nic-white","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/performance-intelligence-5318461","url":"https://share.transistor.fm/s/71e83989","audio_url":"https://media.transistor.fm/71e83989/08025617.mp3","summary":"How do you build a team where people will run through a wall for each other? Not metaphorically. Literally. James Slipper , the most capped Wallaby of all time. Nic White , the third most capped scrum half in Australian rugby history. Two men who've spent more time with each other than with their families, who've argued hard on the training paddock and sat next to each other every Tuesday team dinner for over a decade. Their answer isn't team building. It isn't trust falls. It isn't a values poster on the wall. Slips opens up on his 2018 rock bottom and the rebuild that gave him the longest career of any Wallaby in history. Nic on the chip on his shoulder that ran most of his career, the sepsis that nearly took him out after he hung up the boots, and the word he never used until now: fragile. Two careers. One friendship. A blueprint for the leaders who are tired of culture being a buzzword. 03:00 — How it started: Nic's first run-in with Slips on the field 05:10 — The relationship that goes deeper than friendship and why that matters for performance 07:30 — \"If we brought corporates to watch a Wallabies camp, they'd go... do you guys even like each other?\" 10:00 — The Tuesday night team dinner test and why everyone scanned the room for Slips 13:25 — Nic's career in one line: never really felt wanted. 77 test caps later, here's what kept him going 17:55 — The \"f*** you\" fuel: where it came from, and how long it ran on it 22:10 — When the chip on the shoulder finally became something else and the moment Nic stopped playing for himself 28:35 — Slips on stumbling into a career and what reinvention actually looks like 39:20 — Post-career surgery, sepsis, and the moment the invincible mindset ran out of road 43:05 — \"Fragile.\" Not a word you expect from Nic White. What chang…","meta_description":"How do you build a team where people will run through a wall for each other? Not metaphorically. Literally. James Slipper , the most capped Wallaby of all…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3209,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/performance-intelligence-5318461/episodes/friendship-footy-and-what-s-next-wallabies-james-slipper-nic-white/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/performance-intelligence-5318461/friendship-footy-and-what-s-next-wallabies-james-slipper-nic-white.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}