{"podcast":{"title":"People by WTF","slug":"people-by-wtf-7371960","podcast_index_feed_id":7371960,"rss_url":"https://feeds.hubhopper.com/db41907e6c28518ffe336b392c715ef1.rss","website_url":"https://hubhopper.com/podcast/people-by-wtf/464609","image_url":"https://files.hubhopper.com/podcast/464609/1400x1400/people-by-wtf.jpeg?v=1749459878474620118","author":"Nikhil Kamath","episode_count":48,"summary":"People by WTF is a series where Nikhil Kamath has a conversation with personalities who stand out in their industries around the world.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-17T06:17:55.411923+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/people-by-wtf-7371960"},"episode":{"title":"The AI Tsunami is Here & Society Isn't Ready | Dario Amodei x Nikhil Kamath | People by WTF","slug":"the-ai-tsunami-is-here-society-isn-t-ready-dario-amodei-x-nikhil-kamath-people-by-wtf","published_at":"2026-02-24T13:59:15+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/people-by-wtf-7371960/the-ai-tsunami-is-here-society-isn-t-ready-dario-amodei-x-nikhil-kamath-people-by-wtf","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/people-by-wtf-7371960","url":"https://listen.hubhopper.com/episode/the-ai-tsunami-is-here-society-isnt-ready-dario-amodei-x-nikhil-kamath-people-by-wtf/32984594","audio_url":"https://play.hubhopper.com/7756629c3eb5400cf7c58788ea99e768.mp3?s=rss-feed&v=1a9f3ef12e6f","summary":"I sat down with Dario Amodei in Bangalore. He built Claude, but he started as a biologist looking for a tool to cure disease. Today, he's at the helm of an AI revolution that he compares to a tsunami society is actively ignoring. We got into the heavy stuff: why Anthropic secretly withheld a working model before ChatGPT existed, whether AI is on the verge of consciousness, and if outsourcing our thinking is going to make humans measurably stupider. Dario makes the case that coding is a dying skill, critical thinking is our last real edge, and the absurd concentration of power in AI right now is a massive problem—even though he’s one of the people holding it. #nikhilkamath Co founder of Zerodha and Gruhas Host of “WTF is” and “People By WTF” Podcast Twitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/ #Darioamodei LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dario-amodei/ X: https://x.com/DarioAmodei Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dario.amodei/ Watch “WTF is” Podcast on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn Watch “People By WTF” Podcast on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59 Watch “WTF Online” on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th #WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline #claude #claudeindia #podcast #anthropic #anthropicclaude #anthropicai #ai #aivideo #claude Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 06:13 Scaling laws explained simply 13:27 Trust, humility, and corporate motives 22:44 Using Claude personally, AI knowing you 31:03 Rich people criticizing their own system 37:05 India's role and IT partnerships 44:15 Will AI surpass humans at everything 50:17 Career advice for young Indians 56:38 Open source vs closed AI models…","meta_description":"I sat down with Dario Amodei in Bangalore. He built Claude, but he started as a biologist looking for a tool to cure disease. Today, he's at the helm of a…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4114,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/people-by-wtf-7371960/episodes/the-ai-tsunami-is-here-society-isn-t-ready-dario-amodei-x-nikhil-kamath-people-by-wtf/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/people-by-wtf-7371960/the-ai-tsunami-is-here-society-isn-t-ready-dario-amodei-x-nikhil-kamath-people-by-wtf.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}